Is ilikemysleep here or any of you wonderfully clever mums??

[sweetteamum]

Could you tell me your thoughts on these profiles. I'm not trying to trick anyone but if I came to you with these results, would you be concerned. The results to the left are for an 11 year old and to the right they are 10 years old.
((11 yo)) ((10 yo))
recognition of designs 16 %ile
word definitions 38 %ile 79 %ile
Pattern Construction 62 %ile 58 %ile
Matrices 58 %ile 42 %ile
Verbal Similarities 54 %ile 16 %ile
Quantative Reasoning 50 %ile 18 %ile
Verbal Ability 45 %ile 45 %ile
Non Verbal Reasoning 53 %ile 25 %ile
Spatial Ability 55 %ile 32 %ile
GCA 55 %ile 30 %ile
Reading Test A 21 %ile 14 %ile
Spelling 18 %ile 19 %ile
Recall of designs 50 %ile
Speed of info process 34 %ile
Recall of digits forward 05 %ile
Recognition of pictures 62 %ile
Recall of digits backward 24 %ile
Number skills 30 %ile
SP Non-verbal Composite 55 %ile

Very spiky. Was it the same version of the test? And was there a 12m gap between tests?

The raw scores comparison can also be useful, centiles are the raw scores translated to a percentage of what an 'average' 11yo or 10yo would get. So if a dc did the tests at 10y 0m and then 11y 11m, it would really skew the centiles.

This is based on my recollections of what they sad about ds's testing, so ignore me if someone who knows more comes along

These are for two different children. The ones to the left (or the first scores you see) are for the 11yo and the ones next to those are the 10yo.

Sorry to confuse you but it's not come out as it showed on my screen! Thank you for your reply ;)

Dc1 would not concern me. Those scores are all pretty consistent and within the average band. Even the word definitions which is relatively lower is only 38th percentile, that is within the band where 1 question can change a percentile by 5 points.

I have got a bit confused by the second section where there is only 1 set of scores so I have kind of ignored that!
Dc2 is much spikier and I am concerned that you have a child with word definitions at 79%ile (ie above average) but verbal similarities at 16%ile (which is low end of average) and yet you are told his verbal ability is at 45%ile. This is one of my big concerns about online scoring, it calculates everything whether or not that is sensible. You don't take a kid with high ability to define words, but low ability to identify categories within language, and then say their language skills are average. It would depend on what information has been derived from those scores I suppose. He looks to be pretty spikey in all 3 areas, verbal, non verbal and spatial, though the verbal is most spread. Hopefully that will be discussed within the report you received.

Should add percentiles are calculated in approx 3 month clumps, so a child who is young for year is conpared with others young for year, they aren't comparing a 10 y 0 m with a 10 y 11 m, but with others aged 10y 0m to approx 10y 3 m.

Thanks so much for your time ilike. I didn't want to be seen to pointing anyone in a certain direction based on my thoughts.

These are actually my own dc scores.

The ones on the left (ie first ones) are for dd, who was just 11 when she had the tests at dyslexia action - they said she has mild dyslexia.

The ones to the right (ie second ones) are for ds, who our private EP has absolutely no concerns but yet ds is struggling so much.

I will add that dd is almost dx as asd and ds is still at the very initial stages of assessment. For what, we really don't know.

By the way, the first line with only one score is for ds, who is ten.

I really want to speak with lea EP but am lost on what I need.

Once again, I appreciate the time you've taken over the past few days. You've helped me out more than you realise.

Apologies, and all the scores on the bottom part, where there are just one set these are for my dd, who had what seems a much more detailed report.