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Did a SA make a your bad SEN school do better at supporting?

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flowwithit · 08/02/2013 15:35

I know our Ds is at a secondary school with very few SEN children and they are not good with support. I am hoping that the SA we have applied for will help them support him better but I am beginning to wonder because so far we have got very little help from them.

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StarlightMcKenzie · 08/02/2013 15:40

With a Statement you get to name a school and be guaranteed a place, almost with certainty.

So, you can change schools.

Often, the shit schools very reluctantly provide the statement provision and the effect of that provision is minimum as you don't have hearts and minds.

moosemama · 08/02/2013 16:17

Starlight, sadly that's no longer true - not with secondaries that are academies anyway, the only school to name around here are academies and they are refusing to be named for children with statements as a matter of course.

Flowwithit, in our case applying for a statement made things worse, because the school took umbrage at us applying when they said ds didn't need one. They are now not only providing him with less support than he had before, but also lying about it and insisting they are giving him all the support in his statement.

Essentially, what we've learned is that if a school is crap at supporting children with SEN, it's extremely rare for that to change, regardless of what you do. LEAs can only see so much and the system makes it very easy for schools to do the minimum, then lie and falsify records to cover their tracks. Angry

I have been through the loop of wishing I hadn't applied, but eventually come to the conclusion that it was still the right thing to do. The last three years have been hell, for ds - and for us, but they could have been so much worse if the school hadn't been under constant scrutiny with external professionals coming in and out on a regular basis.

If I could have moved him I would have done, but there is simply nowhere for him to go, there are three primaries to choose from and they all have the same attitude - in fact one of them has a reputation for being much worse.

Unfortunately for us, gaining a statement actually lost ds a place at the local secondary school where the whole of the rest of his school year will be going, because since we applied for the statement, they became and academy and have been really aggressive in creating a 'brand' that does not include children with SEN. They flat out refused to take any pupils with statements in the next intake, but fortunately for us, that's looking like having a positive outcome, as it means the LA can't shove him in any other MS secondary they like either, as they're all pretty much of a muchness in our area. So - nothing definite, but it's looking like he may get an out of area independent placement as a result. Unfortunately for him that means leaving his best friend and small social group and he is devastated about it. Sad

It's a dilemma and I think we've definitely been unlucky, but on balance I would always advise to apply for a statement if a child's needs cannot be met via the normal school's facilities etc.

NameChanger4 · 08/02/2013 18:15

Well in our case we were told by school that we wouldn't get a statement for ds or if we did it would only be for 5 hours - we got 22 hours. Sadly,they did nothing with it and when questioned said that they wouldn't provide what was required until the SAT's were over in 6 months time as they did't want to take him out of class Shock. Other schools he's been at have been all talk and no action too unfortunately so in our experience it's been very hard to find a school willing and able to support. Perhaps we've just been unlucky though. Now ds has started at an independent so we are hopeful of him finally being able to make progress after all the years wasted elsewhere.
Moose - good luck Wink

moosemama · 08/02/2013 18:26

Thank you NameChanger4

We were also fed the, 'he doesn't need a statement' / 'he won't get a statement' line. He got SA and statement on the first try with no hold ups - until I tried to specify and quantify - and everyone who sees it says it's the tightest statement they've ever come across in our area. It isn't, it's still full of mile-wide holes, hence the school being able to wheedle their way out of supporting him, but it was the best we could do without a tribunal, which we just weren't up to at the time.

flowwithit · 08/02/2013 18:59

We were also fed the line" you can try for a statement but it takes ages and after all the hassle he probably won't get it"

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MareeyaDolores · 08/02/2013 22:27

When SA started, school took all the support off the other SA+ dcs in the year and gave it to ds1 Blush.

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