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ABA nursery Shadow question

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salondon · 16/01/2013 13:50

Hello all

I have a question on the nursery shadow. I am told that all nursery shadows (ABA or not) need 3 things.

Am I right in understanding that they are:

  • CRB
  • Public liability insurance
  • Some training - Its NSPCC approved apparently.

I have to write a letter to the nursery manager (who will then send it to his line manager) to see if they will agree or not. I would like to mention to them that these 3 boxes will be ticked.

Thanks a lot

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sickofsocalledexperts · 16/01/2013 16:23

To be honest, most nurseries sem to only actually ask for the Crb and "a bit of experience with kiddies"!

Ineedmorepatience · 16/01/2013 16:35

Am watching with interest.

I would hope that they have had training in ABA techniques if they are shadowing a childConfused

salondon · 16/01/2013 16:51

sickof - The Peach consultant told me about these 3 requirements. You see I want to go all prepared Grin
Ineed - I will keep the group posted

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salondon · 21/01/2013 13:28

Hi

I have some update and further questions. I didnt tell the nursery it will be an ABA shadow.. I just said they will work with my daughter 1-1 . They want to know

  • Where will I hire them from (I said I will try local colleges)
  • Will they do their own program(!) ( I said, no, they will do whatever the Speech therapist and SENCO want)
  • Will they have insurance - Does anyone know what insurance is this?

Thanks
SA

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sickofsocalledexperts · 21/01/2013 17:44

Maybe ask on ABA-UK. I suppose that non-school employees are not protected by school's insurance, eg against accidents at work.

salondon · 22/01/2013 09:44

Yes, that's what it is. "Public Liability & Professional Indemnity Insurance" . We will probably pull her out of nursery for first few months if it doesnt work out

Given that I wont be telling them its ABA, I dont see much point in the tutor going to the nursery initially.. thoughts?

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googlyeyes · 22/01/2013 11:39

Our nursery (a top private one) only ever asked for a CRB check. But then they take a very common sense approach about most things and didn't fuss about public liability etc. They treated her to all intents and purposes as if she was a patent staying with their child

sickofsocalledexperts · 22/01/2013 17:06

The insurance may not cost much.

I would persevere with the nursery plus AbA tutor plan (albeit don't mention Aba to nursery till they get to know the tutor). My feeling was the social and learning opportunities of a ms nursery, mediated by the behaviourally-trained tutor, formed a fantastic starting point/springboard for an autistic child.

sickofsocalledexperts · 22/01/2013 17:12

Forgot to mention I only did nursery part time - combined with home ABA. So I think I started with 2 afternoons a week and gradually moved to 5 afternoons. Full time would have been too much. In effect, though certainly not phrasing it this way to the nursery, we were using nursery sessions as a chance to practise skills learned at home, in a classroom context.

WorrierPrincess · 22/01/2013 21:22

Our nursery shadow has a CRB check but that's all the nursery have asked for. They are very 'common sense' too - they see ds benefits from having a 1-2-1 and they're happy

salondon · 06/02/2013 11:05

Hello all,

Further update. The nursery have agreed. I now have a tutor to shadow her once a week for 3 hours. I am planning to build this up to more days per week once we get the hang of the program. Till then it will be home based.

They need to do the CRB(which is now actually called DBS, see here) using their management and I need to cover the costs and that's all basically. The insurance will be the nursery's insurance and they will treat the tutor as a volunteer.

I havent told them its ABA and I am hoping this wont be an issue.

Thanks for your help
SA

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sickofsocalledexperts · 06/02/2013 11:20

Hooray - well navigated SA!

salondon · 06/02/2013 11:22

thanks SickOf... I am not too sure how will the data recording work if I dont tell them its ABA

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sickofsocalledexperts · 06/02/2013 11:26

Just say she takes lots of notes to help her understand the child. Or, if she is young and her memory still works better than my old brain, tell her to write it up afterwards

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