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sweetteamum · 14/01/2013 05:49

................ Your child's 'ways', sensory issues, fidgetiness, lack of concentration etc are not being taken into consideration in the classroom, plus, being punished for it.

Would you say it's discrimination or is there another word or not (apologies for the ridiculous wording but i've been up about 4 hours already!! [yawn emotion]

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Handywoman · 14/01/2013 06:56

I would say yes that amounts to discrimination if staff have been alerted to these issues but are punishing rather than accommodating. What's your plan, sweettea? Sorry about the sleep issue, insomnia is just awful. ((Hug)) and Honk.

Handy xxx

Ineedmorepatience · 14/01/2013 08:18

I agree it is discrimination but when a school lacks knowledge, understanding or even interest it is very hard to get them to accept that they are wrong.

I have met teachers and a HT/ SENCO who genuinely believed they knew my child better than I did and that their way of managing her was better than mineHmm

Trying to convince some people to take your ideas on board can be very difficult.

I am honking for you sweet and hope you can get some sleep today or tonightSad

porridgelover · 14/01/2013 08:20

Awful for your DS.
If there's an assessed need, then I dont think 'discrimination' is too strong a word.
Teacher needs training 'support' on how to accomodate your DC?

lougle · 14/01/2013 09:20

Incompetence?
Indifference?
Laziness?
Apathy?
Failing?

Wink

I'm sorry, I don't think any of those will win you friends, but they are probably accurate.

StarlightMcKenzie · 14/01/2013 09:22

Well it IS discrimination, but I think it is (usually) down to ignorance rather than overt bullying. Which is absolutely NO excuse, just a tad less sinister.

Schools only ever ask you for help imo if the child is causing the school a problem, not if the child is only causing themselves problems iyswim, and absolutely not if the worst thing that is happening is simply that your child is excluded and not learning.

StarlightMcKenzie · 14/01/2013 09:22

I'd like to add 'arrogance' to Lougle's list.

Cheeseswept · 14/01/2013 10:14

You need to look at their behaviour policy and see what is mentioned with regard to children with disabilities (if anything) and then next time your child is 'punished' challenge them on it. My ds was often punished because of his condition and was recently permanently excluded for not doing something he is unable to do because of his disability.

sweetteamum · 14/01/2013 12:51

Thank you all for the replies :) I actually forgot I posted it, I was that tired Blush

I kept using the term 'discriminating' against things he can't help at a recent meeting, without really thinking how strong the word can actually come across. I should imagine they really love me!!

Anyway, I made it clear that he was unable to help alot of the things that he was doing and that they shouldn't be punishing, using a traffic light card system. I was told in no uncertain terms that "we have a behavioural policy here and it's the same for all children!" I did ask where was the differentation, but got no reply. They seem adamant he's just misbehaving!

I have a copy of their policy but can't see anywhere on it where is describes a child's possibility disability?

I think as there's no label for him yet - even though it's wrote down in reports, then they are going to purely say "well, we don't know what it is and as there's assessments still going on then we have to continue to use the system we have" I just wouldn't know how to respond to that.

I just want him to be treated fairly and allow him to get an education. They have told me he is disturbing the whole class and he's taking more of the class teachers time up than the other children.

I have just re-read that and it screams ''Statutory Assessment'' doesn't it.

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itsallscone · 14/01/2013 13:17

star hit the nail on the head there, Ds's school approached me when he became agressive towards staff and other children (which TBH I am glad they did) when I received paperwork from them it hit me in the face that he was getting no support what so ever all responsibilty was given to the teacher, so if the teachers don't have any experience of Dc's difficulties or they over-use discipline (which unfortunatly some do for just about anything) this would cause all the problems which the school are actually concerned about.

cheesewept has given the advice that I would of, this is something that I will do if/when my Ds gets a dx. At the moment the school are using the no Dx so Ds will not get treated any different than anyone else even though they are aware of his difficulties Confused so on their head be it, as long as I do not see Ds's anxiety levels hit the roof like I did last year (but in all honesty I don't think he will due to the fact that he has a more sensitive teacher this year).

Its ridiculous isn't it expecting a Dc to do something that they are aware the Dc can't perform, and then punishing them when they don't! I have been so tempted to go into school and ask the previous teacher to sit on some drawing pins, while wearing sandpaper on his arms etc, also wearing earphones blasting nothing but distorted noise, and maybe some special glasses made from toilet roll tubes then expect him to conduct the meeting with me so I can then spend all of my time telling him to concentrate, listen, sit still, stop being rude and interupting me while I am talking, and just for good measure tell him he will not be leaving the room until he can correctly relay all of the things I have said to him during the meeting therefore no lunch or break for him at all...but of course he would choose not to wouldn't he Angry

zzzzz · 14/01/2013 13:35

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sweetteamum · 14/01/2013 14:05

Thanks zzzzz . . You make a good point. Althought the school are completely useless I don't want to get their backs up.

Although, the inclusion officer will be there so I may get further this time. They have said he's disturbing the class, taking a lot of teacher time up etc etc etc. I think I will suggest getting additional support by way of statement and see their reaction - they know I have pushed my dd's case through and we are almost at a stage where the proposed statement should be coming through soon. So they will know I'm not going to sit back and take their lets wait and see approach.

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