Please or to access all these features

SN children

Here are some suggested organisations that offer expert advice on special needs.

Tribunal no lawyer

5 replies

corkysgran · 29/11/2012 11:57

Starting to panic now as tribunal less than two weeks away. We have had lawyer helping us prepare but can't afford representation on the day. What is the procedure? Do we start first with our questions to the LA or do the panel just read everything and ask what they're not clear on? Just want to be clear what we should be doing now as lawyer seems pretty busy and hasn't really gone through the procedure yet. Really want to give it our best and don't think preparing the night before is sufficient. Stress levels rising rapidly in our house although DGS of course is blissfully unaware! Thanks in advance, couldn't have got this far without MNSN.

OP posts:
wasuup3000 · 29/11/2012 13:21

Depending on what the appeal is about the Judge will have a formatt in mind that he will want to discuss. He will direct questions to whoever is attending. It is useful to index the bundle yourself in regard to where professional reports are and to think about the main points you want to be clear on. Have these points referenced to your bundle evidence - don't have too many 4 or 5 is sufficient so long as these are clear in regard to what you think/want.

AgnesDiPesto · 29/11/2012 14:00

Usually Panel ask the questions

They generally start with the working doc so you need to have agreed in advance as much as you can or you will both be sent out for an hour to do so

They then go through the working doc and the parts that are not agreed eg Part 2, then 3a then 3b

Where you disagree they will ask each side their views - some bits are from expert advice / to do with placement etc so they will generally say they will come to those in evidence later

Sometimes LA will concede wording or you will - pick your battles don't waste time on things that are not important

eg In ours they said DS did not have any behavioural problems (despite being dx with autism!) so the panel asked his nursery teacher some questions about that and she confirmed he did have tantrums etc so then LA conceded that

After they have done as much as they can on document they will then go through the major disputes - asking questions of you / LA / any witnesses

They often prefer to hear from indep witnesses not the parent

If LA says something you disagree with you can come back on it / challenge it - try an refer to evidence

At end both have to give representations on cost of placement (if relevant)

Then sum up - you / LA are not allowed to raise anything new in summing up that has not been raised in evidence before that

Its good to have a statement you have written up to say in the summing up eg your main 4-5 points about why you want what you want

Key thing is to stick to your 4-5 main points and not let LA sidetrack or waste time - a good chair won't let this happen but if you feel LA are being allowed to waste time say something like 'this is all very interesting, but not relevant I am not here today to talk about x (bizarre legal point etc) but about my DS'

Take a photo of your child to put on the desk in front of you pointing the panel I have no idea whether it has any effect but it is good to remind everyone this is a real child not a case file

Be prepared to have to keep bringing it back to the child if LA try and take over / waste time

Have your main points on a card and try and keep to that and keep bringing it back to that as much as possible

Have lots of egs - Panels like real life egs and LA will not have any / many so things your DS finds hard etc

Be prepared for LA witnesses to tell lies - challenge it but try not to get cross - they often want you to get cross so they can do a 'see what we have to deal with' shrug

Don't be surprised if the Panel don't ask you much at all - they will have read everything before and will only ask for evidence they need to make up their minds - if they don't ask it might mean the panel are already agreed on what they think about it

But you can't rely on that so thats why have your main points and try and make sure you don't leave without saying those 4-5 things.

Good luck, its not as scary as you think and in fact getting to have your say can be quite therapeutic

mysleighscalldtrev · 29/11/2012 14:10

Agnes - I have no idea how any of this works, and have the same prospect on the horizon - are you able to 'sit in' on these things and watch a case to get an idea of the system - I haven't tried youtube but maybe there's something there.

wasuup3000 · 29/11/2012 14:14

Yeah type in sendist tribunal to you tube.

corkysgran · 29/11/2012 14:27

Hmm I can see an evening on YouTube, would never have thought of looking there. Thank you Agnes and Wasuup, you have both helped me before. DD and I will work on summing up statement together. She is worried about speaking in public though ... The photo is a great idea, we were going to bring one for ourselves anyway to remind us why we are going through this ordeal. I can see it could be therapeutic, DD will at last have a real person to answer her questions rather than them hiding behind their legal letters - hope she can stay calm!! It sounds as though the panel lead the proceedings then, that's a relief, we had visions of us having to lead and getting it all wrong, just don't want to mess it up by not knowing enough.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page