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neverputasockinatoaster · 27/11/2012 19:36

Just need a rant please.
Got to school to pick up DS and DD today and there was a buzz going on outside DS's classroom. I could hear DS's name being mentioned and shocked intakes of breath. Went to see his teacher and she said there had been an incident at lunchtime which she had only just found out about. DS had scratched 2 other boys on the face. I was a bit shocked but agreed with her that she would investigate tomorrow.
As we were leaving a mum accosted me. She was one of the mums of the scratched boys. She had a right go about how it was unacceptable, what was I going to do about it, how was DS going to be punished etc etc. She then went on to say she had a problem with me anyway because I'd told her son off at a party and then hadn't followed it up with her. (This was a party where...a group of boys, her son included, tormented DS - stole his socks and hid them, laughed when he got upset, called him fat, ganged up on him etc. The telling off was me asking him to find the socks and I also said 'don't call DS names, he doesn't like it'. I didn't tell her because I considered it sorted and actually DS was my priority that day..). I kept my dignity, said I knew nothing about the incident and that Mrs X was going to sort it tomorrow and that I would take approprite steps once I knew more.
Got home and talked to DS. He is totally upfront about the scratching - he knows it was wrong and he is really upset about doing it. However he then dissolved in tears and out poured all this upset about how these 2 boys are horrible to him, call him names, annoy him etc and he feels they do this to make him angry so he will get cross and then get into trouble.
I have made DS write a letter to both boys apologising for the scratching and I feel any more sanctions are for school to impose. I am suprised the teacher knew nothing about it - the boys in question chose not to tell her or any other adult.... until their mums arrived and then it was full on tears.... I'm trying not to read anything into this... but it is hard not to feel cynical.
DS and I often talk about how hard he finds it to remain calm in the face of adversity but he is aware that all that means is that he has to try harder than everyone else - it is no excuse for violence.
I just feel so awful - it sounds to me as if he is beign bullied - but I feel now that if I bring this up it will be seens as me 'justifying' the scratching.
I have told him that EVERY time said boys call him a name or are unpleasant he has to tell an adult. I know I need to see the HT - I have felt DS was being targeted for a while now but I have tried to see it as 'boys being boys' but it isn't is it? It's wrong to target him just because they find it funny when he loses it isn't it?

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PolterGoose · 27/11/2012 20:03

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cornycarrotshack · 27/11/2012 20:04

Poor ds - how old are they?

neverputasockinatoaster · 27/11/2012 20:24

They are year 3. DS is 8 and one of the oldest in the year (although he lags behind them emotionally and socially).

DS tries to lie but is rubbish at it - usually he lies about the game he is playing on the computer.... When he's stressed he can't lie!

PolterGoose I like that phrase and will nick it if I may - both for DS and for some of the children I teach.

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AgnesDiPesto · 27/11/2012 20:52

Ok school needs to put in place proper rules for parents like these
In our school parents must not ever speak to each other direct about incidents in school. All incidents go through school and are dealt with by school according to behaviour policy

I would report to school what the other parent has said (I doubt she is unknown to school) and ask whether school has a policy of insisting parents leave such matters to school, or whether it will consider implementing one.

Then you can also talk about your concerns re your DS, action you have made him take (brownie points for you) and ask them to keep an eye as to whether this was provoked / indicative of bullying. Ask school what records they keep on incidents like this (ours now has a database) and if they can add to their note your concerns that this may be part of pattern of bullying.

You can say you have talked to him about it, made him apologise etc. In most schools parents who are actually calm about this stuff are rare. If this Mum is a hothead chances are she has more of a reputation at school than you do.

neverputasockinatoaster · 28/11/2012 17:14

OK, an update. This morning I wrote a very long letter to the class teacher - it turned into a bit of an essay - giving DS's side of things. I told her he'd written letters of apology.
I then flagged up the bullying.
Once I got to work I rang and made an appointment with the HT and then cried all over a colleague. I got an appointment for straight after school and my OH got permission to leave work early to come with me.
At lunchtime I was in the middle of my club when the classteacher rang me to thank me for my letter, which she felt was an accurate summary of the issue. All 3 boys had lost a playtime as a sanction because they were all in the wrong. She alos apologised for the other mum having a go at me and said she was really upset that I'd had to hear about the incident from other children. The boys admitted they hadn't told anyone abouyt the scratches because they knew they'd be introuble for winding DS up. I then put the phone down on her and cried all over another colleague!
DH and I met with the HT. He tried to say the bullying wasn't as endemic as we know it to be but I did not allow him to get away with his weasel words. He will be speaking to the boys tomorrow and making it clear it stops NOW. DS has been told he must tell an adult everytime the boys target him. I will teach him the phrase upthread.
It all remains to be seen how things go but I ahve stopped crying over people!

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PolterGoose · 28/11/2012 18:02

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mariammama · 28/11/2012 23:27

Nicely done Wink

coff33pot · 29/11/2012 00:25

oh well done! Grin

Good for you I am glad the matter is going to get sorted for you and your poor DS.

I also tell DS he has to say "stop hitting me" loudly 3 times before he runs off hoping that a teacher will intervene before he runs or retaliates.

WilsonFrickett · 29/11/2012 11:22

Oh well done never

It sounds like the CT is on it actually, and it was just the mouthiness of the other mother that pre-empted her dealing with it in the proper way. Keep an eye on the HT though (I know you will!)

Brew and breathe x

Shayo · 29/11/2012 13:38

Well done!! about time we started saying and putting it into action that schools are supposed to be safe places for our children...Schools at times try to turn a blind eye

neverputasockinatoaster · 29/11/2012 17:36

Thank you for the support.

I think the HT wears invisible blinkers. He sees the lovely children wafting around in front of him but misses the unkind ones off to the sides.

I work in a school in the same town. We are on the 'wrong side of the tracks' as it were. I may have a real problem with my HT at times BUT bullying is zero tolerance in our place - in fact when we have had children with SN being targeted it is usually the rest of the kids who sort it out!

DS's school seems to have a culture of 'testeronic bullying' which the HT genuinely doesn't see.....

I am keeping a diary from now on of all incidents......

I am in ass kicking mood.

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