bed wetting (on purpose) problems. Please vote on solution.

[getbakainyourjimjams]

ONe of ds1's favourite annoying habits has returned. I have some ideas of things to try but am not sure which one to go for.

So the problem. We put him to bed (put him in his room then put 2 travel barriers up), he strips off and gets into bed. I dress him again when I go up to bed and remove the travel barriers. Usually his bed is dry at this time. In the morning he strips off again and wets his bed.

So potential solutions:

1. Put him in pyjamas he can't take off. He won't wet his bed unless he is naked. But problem if he stirs in the night and tries to strip off and can't- he would start yelling the place down.

2. I don't get him dressed before I go to bed. I think stripping is the first part of the sequence leading to weeing. I thought maybe stopping that would stop the rest of the sequence. Bit worried about him kicking off the covers and getting cold at night.

1. Get up before him (not always possible) and make him go to the toilet. Did this this morning- but he got really cross and went back to bed and insisted on having the barriers back up again, then lay in bed shouting refusing to get ready for school.

Or do we just sit it out and hope it goes away again.

bump before I go to bed- cannot decide which one to try.

I'd probably try 2) if it was me......but I don't know your DS, so am in no position to judge really.....
Good luck whatever you do!

Must admit I'm favouring 2. I'm not sure that knowing him is an advantage sometimes :o

i think i'd do 2... make sure it's nice and warm in his room

yes- that's the problem- it does get cold in there at night, am wondering whether to save that one until the warmer weather.....

then amybe 1?
does he normally wake in the night?

He goes through phases- not at the moment, but if he does wake he;s up for 2 + hours so I don't like to encourage it :o

ahhh... could be risky then!

Well we didn't try anything last night and we were woken to the sounds of giggling at 6.30 and ds1 lying very happliy in a wet bed. It's put him in a good mood though- he thinks its hilarious.

when my ds was very little and we were toilet training him i did find if he went to bed with nothing on he wet the bed (he is nt) know that doesn't help.
I think I would do whatever allows you to get the most sleep. Do you get the matress protectors from nappy people.

What's brought previous phases of this to an end?

what does he do when he doesn't wee in his bed? (take himself to the bathroom? stay asleep later?) are there any reasons that his normal pattern doesn't work at the moment? (too cold in bathroom? lighting?)

Why do you think he's doing it? (to get some sort of response? because he likes doing it? because he hasn't figureed out to go to the bathroom when he wakes up?)

He's doing it because he knows he's not allowed to - hence all the giggling- he's hoping I'll shout but I just ignore it.
His teacher rang this morning so I mentioned it to him. He said he was very creative in finding ways to get a rise out of us, and pointed out that he does tend to rotate annoying habits. He said he'll have a think (but thought my suggested solutions may work). I need to dig out the clinical psychs number and ring her really.

Before starting this again (well last year it was more weeing on being put to bed) he would just wake up and take himself to the toilet, then come up and jump into bed with us.

I get the matress protectors etc from disability shops or online. Our incontinence service provide nothing.

Nothing reallystopped it last time- he just moved onto a differnent annoying habit! :o

will the next annoying habit be more or less annoying?

at incontinence service.

JJ: you were recommending Nordic Naturals fish oils. can you get them online? I've searched and can only find US sources.

I used to buy them from the US- so possibly not. Pity, they're good.

you could try nutricentre- although I've always found their customer service to be diabolical.

They have them at Nutricentre: they say 'exclusive european distributers'. I've ordered them from there. Thanks.

Revived the thread because he has now taken to wetting night and morning, and then coming into my bed and trying to wet that (I kick him out- he;s only managed it once) All I am washing is bedding, everything else is piling high. I have a feeling we are about to lose control of this one. Any ideas please. I'm completely stumped.

I know this is not normally recommended, but can you take him to the toilet before you go to bed?

Would he be ready to wee again when he wakes in the morning? I can imagine how frustrated you must be feeling.

oh he can produce buckets on demand. When he wet my bed he'd just emptied his bladder in his about 2 minutes before. He's like Mr Creosote, only its Mr bladderosoak or something.

it's the no punishment thing- if I tell him off he just thinks its funyy - even things he doesn't like (being pushed out of the bed, or shoved outside the room) he thinks is funny overall.

The only thing I can think of doing is getting up at 6am to get him up before he wakes up, forcing him to go and then attaching myself to him so he can't wee all over the place. But ds3 is teething at the moment (molars) and is up every night/every other night. I'm shattered as it is. We have done that a couple of times and it works but he gts very cross and spends the next hour shouting stripping off and squeezing out drops all over the place.

jimjams, if you don't know what to do it must be really tough - if dressing him in stuff he can't take off doesn't work I am completely flummoxed.

Any way of stopping him waking in the night - white noise machine or something? Then you could put him in unremovable clothes and take them off him in the morning?

Is it stupid to suggest reinforcers (thinking choc buttons) for using the toilet? And could you go with him a few times during the day, check his bed, show him it's dry, and give him a button? Would he make the link?

He is sleeping quite well at the moment, so I could try unremovable clothes when we go up to bed (although he;s now added in a little sprinkle at bed time grrr). I just feel too tired to deal with the fall out if he does wake up at 2am and then can't get his clothes off though. It would be OK if ds3 was sleeping at the moment, but teeth (following chickenpox last week) = sleep deprivation all round.

I feel a bit despondant about the whole bed thing, and I didn't wash his kylie today (from last night) s Im going to struggle to have one dry for tomorrow night. I pondered about removing the kylie so that he has to wallow in a bi more, but last summer he would strip the entire bed to the plastic sheet and then wee on that - less washing but pretty unpleasant - so I'm not sure I want to risk it.

Lack of strong reinforcers is a perennial problem with ds1. At the moment his favourite thing is going out for a walk on the street, but its borderline stimmy, andI can;t really get through to him " no wee then walk, wee wee no walk" I think its too abstract, and not immediate enough.

I think "potting", i.e. getting him up when you go to bed and taking him to loo or taking (big) potty to him would work. I did this for a while with DS, although potentially waking him is the last thing I want to do, and it did work!!!! I've also spent a fortune on special bedding, nothing from incontinence svs. I'm currently dreaming of a second washing machine upstairs to shove the bedding, towels etc into.