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Statement for ASD child in MS -- help!!!

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donburi · 19/09/2012 10:24

How much quantified help is it realistic to expect them to write in assuming Part 4 is left unchallenged?
I am thinking of SALT in particular (social groups not run by a qualified SALT don't sound like enough to me??). What sorts of things can SALTs working with non - pre-school ASD children actually offer? ATM all they do directly is the annual review.
EP (I accept that they are mainly observers and can do very little 1-1)Once again, have only seen them produce obs and assessments, never any proper follow-up
OT - I understand why they would not agree to fund retained reflex therapy, AIT but has anyone managed to have regular help with handwriting due to fine motor issues written in?
Is there a way of neither committing to or rejecting part 4 until you gain a clearer idea of what is on the table? Proposed statement has not been promising.

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schobe · 19/09/2012 10:31

Part 4 shouldn't even be filled in until parts 2 and 3 are finalised (I think I'm right here). Once the level of need and what is required to meet it are clear, only then can you and the school decide if they can fulfil that.

schobe · 19/09/2012 10:33

It's realistic to want them to write in as much quantified help as is actually needed. I purposely used 'want' rather than 'expect' - they are a law unto themselves it seems.

They shouldn't be saying that it can't be put in because the school can't do it. Are they trying that? It's either needed or it's not.

donburi · 19/09/2012 11:33

I guess that my main problem at this stage is lack of independent reports. ATM I have a very clear idea of what he needs but very little to prove that an expert has approved this. Their attitude has been 'Well we offer basic x,y,z . Parents are welcome to spend their own money seeking out nouveau therapy but we wont be paying for it'. I know that further along the line, these reports may need to be commissioned but for now, all I have to go on is their reports and my instinct as a mother who has been more proactive about finding out and self-administering progs without having been able to finance the outside help.
For a multitude of reasons, Part 4 is unlikely to change but there are independent schools which are set at exactly the right level for DS not far from where we live and have full on-site therapy. They are prohibitively expensive and I have been advised that the chances of winning them is too small. I would be expected to try the ASD unit attached to a MS in special measures for a while, then the state SS for which he is too HF before getting to that point.

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schobe · 19/09/2012 14:22

Hmm sounds tough. Did they actually say 'we offer basic x, y, z'? Or did they at least try to claim that it meets his needs in part 2?

Is there nothing in their professional reports that they have missed out of part 2 or 3? Is the provision in part 3 quantified in some way?

Should a SALT at least be overseeing the social group's programme and training the staff running it? If so, this should be in part 3.

Re the handwriting, if he is clearly having problems with it, then it surely should be in part 2. Then a measure to meet that need should be in part 3. Then it would be the local authority's legal responsibility to ensure that was happening.

I know how detailed these things are, and it's hard to comment without all the ins and outs. I'm not an expert (yet) but know there are several on the board not posting at the moment so that's why it may be a bit quiet.

alison222 · 19/09/2012 16:45

Help with handwriting can be from low muscle tone etc. This is down to OT help and daily exercises to strengthen hands - I got OT written into the statement.
It can also be due to a need to learn to form the letters properly - or a combination.
For the actual handwriting DS had it written into his IEP rather than in the statement, but in the statement we got typing lessons and that the school must consider alternative methods of him recording his work.

HTH.

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