ASD school trousers

[porridgelover]

I think this has been done before but I am a bit stuck so please tell me your inspired ideas.
DS is ASD and highly tactile defensive at his waist (retained Spinal Galant if that makes sense).
He cannot tolerate any trousers on his waist and all swing low at the top of his pelvic bone.
He also doesn't have the fine motor to manage trousers fastenings..be it buttons, those metal bar thingies, hook and eye that I put on, velcro that I add. It also means he cant manage a belt.

Last years M&S elasticated waist trousers were perfect; large enough and elastic-y enough that he could pull them on without opening but they stayed up when on.
So I confidently bought the next size up; in the middle of June. They were fine.

Ooops. I tried them on yesterday. He cant tolerate them. He has grown over the summer and they are just tight enough that he can get them on but they are digging in. I went and got the next size up again. No joy.

So I need trousers for him for Friday. I wont be able to get to M&S again. I am handy-ish with needle and thread (can do a button/hem). The M&S ones will suffice for a day or two until I come up with a solution but wont be ok for the full term.

Help please?

Will they let him wear black joggers? It would come under reasonable adjustments. Or will that make him stand out? There are wide fit trousers as well?

EllenJane he stands out as it is with his stimming.

They wear a uniform (or else he would be in trackie bottoms full time). He has poor body image so always looks disheveled. I always try to tidy him up to blend in.
The school track suit is a different colour to everyday trouser uniform. So uniform colour trousers it is. I think school would be open to reasonable compromise but dont think DS would....he knows it's embarrassing to be different.

Thanks for your idea.

Yeah, don't want to damage his self esteem. Maybe try wide fit? Still has button elastic etc.

Don't know if the elasticated trousers you've already tried are standard elasticated ones or the M and S adjustable waist trousers which have a small section of elastic on each side of the waist that you can adjust with button holes in the elastic? There are some which come in different lengths as well.

Thanks both.
I was hoping not to have to run to shops tomorrow, that I might be inspired how to adapt what I have. But if M&S have a generic wide fit I may as well go for that. I will ring local one in the morning and hope they have his age in stock.

Porridge, I think m & s have long, standard and short length rather than wide fit. I'd get a 'short' length in an older age to get the extra width and with the right leg length. Complicated, but it does work.

BHS do wide fit? www.bhs.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogNavigationSearchResultCmd?catalogId=34096&storeId=13077&langId=-1&viewAllFlag=false&sort_field=Relevance&categoryId=616497&parent_categoryId=616491&beginIndex=1&pageSize=40

No help at all re the trousers but a little is that why DD insists on slinging her trousers under her hipbones and not where they shoukd sit?

Could he tolerate an elasticated snake belt?www.amazon.co.uk/Boys-Girls-Childrens-Snake-Belts/dp/B00319TXVE/ref=pd_sim_sh_1

www.amazon.co.uk/Boys-Girls-Childrens-Snake-Belts/dp/B00319TXVE/ref=pd_sim_sh_1

Ds had similar difficulties and additionally could not cope with button elastic, but did cope with the fully elasticated pull on school trousers from ww.schooluniform247.co.uk. as the waist is very stretchy. They are available only up to size 7-8, and comfy on skinny ds. The only drawback is the turnup which actually looks smart.

We have the next pull on jersey trousers here (but girls, I assume there is a boys equivalent)
They shrink on the first wash so it's a bit hard to get the size right but after the first shrink they keep their shape and wash well. They come in slim regular and plus so getting right size should be possible.

(they also deliver if getting to shops is problematic)

ds1 also has the m&S adjustable ones, we have a couple with the elastic sewn for "bad days" when the button is a problem iyswim. Are you in a position where it's a bit negotiable on some days? Being the anxious time of the year, if you're like us, that may not be too promising, so sorry if it's daft The others that we ended up with at one time with similar reasons, was Matalan. Similar fit but more room at the waist. Maybe worth investigating, sorry if that's more shopping that you could do without.

Just checked back in before bed.Thank you all.
jsotherhalf...that is like a S&B response! .

I don't wish to be negative. He can fit into his own age size no problem. But insists on slinging them back down and that makes his 'waist' size completely disproportionate IYSWIM as it runs from just above his butt at the back to almost on his pubic bone at the front. His undies are usually on display edging over his trousers. That's fine if he has his school shirt/jumper over them.
But the trousers I have 'fit'.....just completely uncomfortable. He will come home with the waistband mark gouged into himself. I need to find a way to expand an extra, flexible 1/2inch. Hmmmmm

Sheelanegig is your daughter hypersensitive to touches on her lower back, very 'ticklish'? Doing 'snow angels' slowly and symmetrically is supposed to help tho' had no effect for my DS.

Magso , Lola and MrsShrek
I kinda panicked earlier as I thought I was organised in June, to realise today that I am not.
I won't bring him shopping tomorrow as he HATES clothes shops, too bright, too loud, too busy. But I will jimmy something for Friday and see if I can shop on Saturday.
Thank you

Littlewoods.com do boys pull up trousers up to aged 12 years, not sure how old your son is? my asd son is 12 years and they still fit him, though I have also just brought a pair of black jean type trousers from next that have an adjustable waistband and a popper instead of the usual hook and eye. Hope this helps.

egg, it's helped me already, hope it helps the OP too but thank you from me

"is your daughter hypersensitive to touches on her lower back, very 'ticklish'? "

YES! I never knew that there could be a developmental reason for dd's fussyness about her back/middle! Googling retained spinal galant reflexes has rung a lot of bells.

I can't wait to go home to dd and tickle one side of her back to see what happends (she will probably wee on me!!)

Thank you.

Can you sew a bit more elastic onto the included bit so its longer? Or when they're the gather-it-all in type with lots of sewing machined layers of elastic threads, snipping them in a few areas can work.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
I was exhausted today as he decided it was ok to get up and stomp about at 6am to wake us all. So to stop myself shouting all day get us all out , I went into the shops and in one kids boutique type place, found wide-fit stretchy trousers. They should do the trick esp if I snip the elastic as mariamma suggests.
It's a business opportunity isnt it. I imagine lots of people would know exactly what I meant if I sold ASD-type wide waist trousers for boys. Maybe a false zip/button for appearances but essentially a trackie type pull on, in a trouser appearance. Ditto for jeans.

Our school shop has trousers with half elesticated waist (IFSWIM - elastic only round the back). They come in slim, normal and sturdy fits and they go up to age 13. We have just bought age 12 and have one more size to go and then I have to deal with zips buttons and belts Aghhh.
Actually we have an opposite problem in that DS is like a beanpole so we need to find skinny trousers without pulling so much elastic in on the adjustable ones so that we have bunches of material gathered around the bum.

If you want to 'jimmy' existing trousers,I find the most sussessful way to fix up button elastic trousers is to remove the buttons and replace the elastic with normal soft trouser elastic (widest that will fit eg from John Lewis). Button elastic seems less strong and stretchy. Get it just tight enough to hold them up. Stitch in one end, thread through and hold other end with saftey pin to adjust on child or to 'waist' measurement + a tiny bit 4-5mm), then stitch last in - preferably hidden in the casing.