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Independent Steiner/Waldorf ASD/AS school

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sazale · 24/06/2012 12:11

I was planning on going to view the nearest independent school for ASD/AS as struggling to find LEA provision. It is a newly opened school (Sept 2011) but is part of a more established group of colleges that I've been told have a good repetition by a teacher in one of the LEA speial schools. I read the prospectus and it sounded a bit hippyish but thought I'd have a look (they say have children there funded by our LEA). After googling about Steiner/Waldorf I'm now put off looking. A lot of the stuff I've read doesn't sound too good and my dd is very vulnerable and would believe any crazy cult like stuff she was exposed too. I've read about them believing that children are disabled/black because of problems in their previous life and they don't intervene in bullying as its Karma and children have to sort it out for themselves.

I was wondering if anyone has any experience of this type of education? Just that there's so much controversy about it has put me off because I couldn't take that risk with her but then the other part of me thinks why would the LEA fund places there if it was all cultish!

Thanks

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FallenCaryatid · 24/06/2012 12:19

Have a search on the forums, there are several detailed threads about Steiner schools. They do vary considerably, the one near East Grinstead has a good reputation locally.

ThoughtBen10WasBadPokemonOMG · 24/06/2012 13:17

My parents both went to the one in Kings Langley. They are completely non-cultish people. My BIL also went to one in Streatham when he was out of school at about 7 yo when he was bullied. We know lots of people in Germany who have gone to one or taught at one. They are slightly more off-beat people but are doing normal jobs as adults such as teaching, nursing and medicine.

Lots of free play and painting.

ThoughtBen10WasBadPokemonOMG · 24/06/2012 13:18

Oh and my BIL is now 22. He is a tennis coach.

merlincat · 24/06/2012 18:32

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jandymaccomesback · 24/06/2012 20:01

There is one near Northampton which looks good as long as you aren't too bothered about GCSE results. My DS was just at the top of the age range for acceptance when we found out about it so didn't go and look round. Must admit some of the stuff online does sound a bit strange.

jandymaccomesback · 24/06/2012 20:03

Just reread OP. I think the one near Northampton is boys only.

sazale · 24/06/2012 20:22

Thanks everyone for your replies.

It's called Brantwood School and has opened in Sheffield and is specifically for special needs, primarily ASD/AS.

Merlincat, I'm so sorry to hear about your son. I do hope it hasn't impacted him too much long term.

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mrsbaffled · 24/06/2012 20:38

Personally I wouldn't even consider a Steiner school. The philosphy really doesn't mix with my personal beliefs.

sazale · 24/06/2012 21:13

Tbh there's that many posts/info on the Internet saying things about their beliefs that I think we'd be better off steering clear to be on the safe side! Particularly as my dd has AS, is left handed and mixed race which are 3 problem areas if the posts about their beliefs are correct!

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Junoper · 02/07/2012 16:25

Sazale, before you dimiss it out of hand, please be aware that much internet discussion of Steiner Waldorf education is dominated by self-styled steiner-waldorf critics. They?re individuals who spend a great deal of time looking on internet discussion boards for posts about Steiner Education, in order to post negative and off-putting comments. They are individuals, some are calm and clear, others are rabid and manic, some are funny, some bitter, some wistful, some scornful. Some have had negative experiences at Steiner schools and often generalise these experiences to cover ?all? Steiner schools or Steiner education. Some actually have no experience of Steiner schools whatsoever, and really are more critical of anthroposophy than of Waldorf education. Unfortunately it makes it virtually impossible to have any meaningful or genuine discussion online, and for people who are trying to figure out what is right for your child means that Steiner Education can be ruled out based on internet platitudes alone. So if you're considering a Steiner School, among others, visit, spend time there (as you would at any school, right?), and meet your child?s future teachers. Talk to parents and students. Ask questions about what you've read on the internet. Don?t let critics dissuade you, and don?t let Steiner aficiandos convince you. Gather information and make the decision based on your own experience and your own thinking. Good luck :)

Ronifromwales · 03/07/2012 19:09

Hi, I've visited a steiner school today in Cardiff. They are small, you take your shoes off when you come in, and are welcomed by teachers who are dressed in a simple manner and are very polite and calm. My ds is 5 asd and high functioning potential. his current school doesn't think he would fit in mainstream but he was well accepted by teacher there. at no point she referred to special needs autism etc. she saw my ds for what he was and said he would fit in there. she said they have got kids between 3 and 7 in one room and that he wouldn't stand out because he looks like he is at the 3 yr old stage. which pleased me. My ds is doing aba at home so the pressure to educate him and cater for his asd needs is not with school. he would be with neurotypical kids and observing kids that are older than him too doing things with them. Council never allowed my ds to do this... She talked about the community spirit they have, lots of wood around you, no richness, no interactive screens computer, tv or whiteboards but a lovely atmosphere. Calm and they focus on being together. no pressure is put on kids to do this or that but they said they'd welcome my ds's aba trained ta to carry on his programme in school as long as she didn't interfere with the normal flow of the kids play and activities, which is fine by me as a ta's job is to facilitate not to interfere. my ds is on a gfcf diet they cater for that too. their day is they come in, play outside (whatever the weather), they come in sing songs (more lively songs in summer, warmer songs in winter), they follow the seasons with their eating, activities etc, their cooking is vegan and home made foods that kids help make once a week as part of their activities. They tidy up together, sit together at the massive table that fits in 16 kids that is their no per session. they recycle and you see wooden toys everywhere. Their little classroom is simple but so full of stories to tell... they've got ceramic tea pots and glasses around so kids learn not to break them. They eat from glass plates and glass cups from a young age. they learn the meaning of consequence too by dealing with the consequences of their actions. No punishment but teaching.

If they're a cult, they didn't tell me that and I didn't see that. Kindergarden teacher is lovely. My son hasn't been invited to a party for 2 yrs... she says they're all included in everything there and parents are part of their community and meet twice a week for coffee and a chat. I want that... my son deserves to be with other kids that are high functioning to learn social skills, hippy or no hippy lol concil is too arrogant to allow my ds with 'normal' kids at the moment. they don't wear uniforms there. for me it will be ideal until i get my ds at a point where I can apply for a place in mainstream when he is more high functioning. He needs to learn from other kids.

I'm strict about my kids education, I but in, ask questions to school and in my opinion no school should be solely responsible for your child's education if he is SEN. I've taken the plunge and gave up work to oversee my ds's education last december, don't regret. Not saying everyone should to this but you need expert advice and school should be willing to work with YOUR choice of treatment for your kids. I shall not be dictated to by NHS or LEA. Look for best options not for easy options. School will never do what U the parent can do! Steiner in my opinion would be a place my ds would go for social/interaction with high functioning kids and a break from aba. That is that! They only start teaching to read and write when kids are 7. No problem there for me as I only learnt to read and write at 6 and here I am typing and managed to get a degree in English... not bad I think. Finish kids are the best readers in the world and they do a lot of repetition which is a good therapy for asd kids. In this case they will be suitable for us... I don't actually care if he is singing to the rain on a rainy day, to the sun on a sunny day as long as he has a voice and is imitating other kids!!! :c) he can goo and pee in the bush if he gets potty trained.

I'm a Christian but my first impressions of them were good. No cult signs... no dark magic. They probably clean their toilets with vinegar because they look after their environment but who cares? what is it with people nowadays... they wanna see a lot of high tech stuff and spotless clean places full of chemical products. uniforms... the world has got more to offer than that... would u rather have your kid in a special needs unit cut off from the rest of the world? I know what I want and it's not that...

My ds will have a session there in september. will post here as I've been told I can stay for the whole four hours and make up my mind. kids at kidergarden age don't need to attend every day so we can pick and choose when we send them. very suitable for ABA too.

Hope it's helpful... :c)

Ronifromwales · 03/07/2012 19:39

btw I asked my ds's current school if my consultant could come in to observe for diagnosis, lea would let her in at all... I'm not allowed in either because of health and safety issues and rations. have they got anything to hide? this is what concerns me about some sen schools...

SilkStalkings · 04/07/2012 16:29

I would definitely consider trying it if mainstream school / Home Ed weren't do-able or there wasn't a good Home Ed group nearby. Ask to see all their policies esp Equal Opps and ask if part time is an option. Get on the Committee/ Governors' Board so you can get a good idea of their priorities eg the prescribed spiritual stuff may be bottom of the list and hardly ever broached.

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