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appropriatelyemployed · 23/06/2012 16:37

Interesting one this. The dreadful woman I am dealing with at the LGO tells me they will not have someone external to their team review their third provisional judgment before final determination because, and I quote:

"If you are dissatisfied with that decision you will be able to obtain a review. This will be conducted internally by an Assistant Ombudsman or Senior Investigator with no previous involvement in the case."

Clearly, this is not true. There is a right to complain about the decision but no right to an internal review of the decision as she suggests. Indeed, the LGO's website makes it quite clear that this will only take place if there is new evidence.

I have asked for someone else to make the final determination because her team have issued 3 judgments already - the first 2 rejected maladministration, the third accepted a small amount of maladministration. All on the same evidence.

So after 3 judgments and 12 months of arguing, they have moved position a little. But this just begs a series of questions: why did you fail to acknowledge maladministration a year ago? Why have I had to go to this time and expense? What would have happened had your ruled on maladministration properly a year ago? Would the LA really have sought a vexatious determination against me then? They used the LGO's determination as evidence against me!

It is entirely inappropriate for the same team to keep reviewing things in the circumstances but it's shocking for a senior LGO person to suggest final decisions are subject to an internal appeal as of right.

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StarlightWithAsteroid · 24/06/2012 10:31

What blardy nonsense!

StarlightWithAsteroid · 24/06/2012 10:32

How long can this craziness be dragged out for? What's the next level? Are any of the charities following this?

appropriatelyemployed · 24/06/2012 14:23

I think there will be one final layer of trial by endurance before they final tell me to f... off.

One charity has written in support, expressing their concerns about rulings of this nature being made but, so far, the LGO continue to exonerate the LA mainly.

In respect of the vexatious decision, they seem to be saying 'well that could have been done differently so the policy needs to change but it's not maladministration as we haven't investigated it as it's not worth public money to do so'.

What sort of crazy logic is that? Yes, they did something wrong but so what?

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tiredoffightingwithjelly · 25/06/2012 07:51

I too have just requested an internal review on two points of law which the LGO seems to be wanting to ignore. There is no new evdence and they did find maladministration with injustice but have missed/dismissed two areas which are of key relevance to me.

Not impressed at all with the lack of a timely response in relation to a current complaint where the LA are in breech of a tribunal order - the LGO seemingly want to ignore this too! One day they will realise that some of us will refuse to be worn down and persist, best they find a way to treat complainants with a tad more respect I think.

It seems there needs to be a separate body to quality assure the quality asurance system in Local Government! Their logic is indeed crazy as is their desire to waste tax payers money by trying to fob people off and ignore key points leading to more work not just for complainants but themselves, utter madness :)

hoxtonbabe · 25/06/2012 22:07

Do not get me started on the LGO. I just received a reply to my concerns about the way my case was looked at and low and behold just like the previous investigator he "sees no reason to further investigate"

I have showed them in black and white that the Council went against their own policy, did not even try to investigate my issue and the person I complained about (my issue was about an employee working with my son) was actually allowed to view and change the draft to their liking???

Tired I really feel your pain and frustrations, I have decided to take mine to everyone from that twit Cameron, to my local newspaper as in my case I still would like to know where £3000 of tax payers money that should have beeen used on my son has vanished to

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