School outing in nappies

[laura4jasmine]

My ds2 is 4yo and no where near being toilet trained. He goes to nursery every morning but they do not change pull-ups. They are going on a school trip with P1/2 next week and it's just dawned on me (duh!) that as it's a full day outing he will need changed. I can't go as a helper as my 2yo dd2 is often ill and I have no-one I can leave her with. Do I have any options or will he have to miss out?

talk to the organisers and see if the school has a TA who would be prepared to change him. If he isn't dry by September, they will have to manage his needs, so they might as well start now.

why wont they change him!! Legally they cant refuse, and i would be having serious words with them about their policy.
You need to ask how they plan to cover this as to exclude him due to his SN they are likely to get in very serious trouble.

Don't know what your ds's dx is laura - but start quoting the disability discrimination act to them.

the dda is your friend if they wont change him thell have to bring along the school nurse who will

I agree with Lisa - why wont they change him?

Thanks for the help. My ds2 has gross motor planning and sequencing delays (just one of the many issues!)and really struggles with tasks that have more than one step, so the whole process of going to the toilet just escapes him completely. The nursery have always made it clear they will not change nappies (they will phone me to come in) and I had no idea they couldn't do that. I'm going to talk to them this morning and feel better able to stand my ground now, thank you!

You need a new nursery, that's outrageous

laura - are you getting a statement for when he starts school (which I'm guessing is soon)? Sounds like he will need one, so now is the time to ask for one!!

They are breaking the law!! Throw the book at them and ask to see their disabilities policy and equal opportunities policy.

The Disability Discrimination Act has been more or less replaced by the Equality Act.
Link here to Direct Gov website may be of assistance to you.
www.direct.gov.uk/en/disabledpeople/rightsandobligations/disabilityrights/dg_4001068

Absolutely breaking the law. Point this out to them and if they dont change I would be finding a new nursery.

Update: spoke to the nursery teacher today and she was surprisingly accommodating. She has agreed that this outing is unusually long and since I have dd with sn they understand I can't come on the outing. She has agreed to change his nappy and will only phone me if he is in too big a mess for them to deal with (not likely), thankfully he never messes with his nappy.

I have a meeting with the Ed support worker, OT, SALT and nursery teacher next month to plan what his needs are for next year. He has another full year in nursery due to the cut off date in Scotland. I have been told he will get some 1:1 support from Aug, but I don't know how many hours and no-one has mentioned a statement. This is such a learning process and I really appreciate your support and advice, thank you.

Laura, things are different in Scotland to England and Wales, wrt statements. I don't think Scotland do them as such. I'd put a shout out for Scottish MNSNers to help you.

Equality Act still holds, though.

Its big of her to agree to change it on that outing - but they should be changing it all the time. I would kick up a massive stink and threaten to go to the LA or even your MP.

Nappies should be changed every 2-3 hours, but I'm glad you've won this round OP!