Leonie, and those that know about glucose testing in pg!

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Here is my unintended emotional vampire thread. Please help if you can

Star I have read all this last night. I didnt go into this threat because I havent had the GD issue pop up in my pgs. Didnt realise your thread was more than just the theoretical question.

You will weigh it all up and get through it because you are a strong person inside and no doubt you have worked out by now that everything always comes at once to deal with and never one thing at a time :)

So far you have made a fantastic job of it all and you will carry on doing a fantastic job.

Thinking of you but could change my mind if you dont start sharing that chocolate you are munching

No reduction in willingness here just, as always, I give an honest opinion, which isn't always the easiest one to hear. You should try being me - I even irritate myself when I have an opinion I don't like

Private hospitals (or the private bits of NHS ones) are usually very flexible, customer-focussed and accommodating about taking blood on behalf of faraway clinicians providing they can easily
a) get the report to the professional requesting it and
b) relieve you of the payment for taking and processing the blood test.

They even waive the nonsense about "ah but that's a St elsewheres form circa 2011 and we only accept our own (almost identical) form, sorry". I presume you've got some sort of paperwork about the GTT?

[I did hear you re being happy with the fingerprick now and sort it out later plan, I'm just being a compulsive solution finder...]
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Maria Thank you. That's a great plan B.
I'm not liking this finger pricking thing at all. I mean it's fine and I know many have to do it for life, - perhaps they just get used to it.

I just got a reading of 7.8, one hour post breakfast (20 minstrels and no sugar Alpen).

Do I turn myself in?

Been a diabetic my whole life, so if I can help, please ask.
Think a monitor is a very good idea. Arms you with facts and evidence.
In both pg's, which were monitored brilliantly, and very very closely, they insisted that baby was huge. Infact, both times, I had HUGE amount of water, was commented on, when it 'gushed', and both ds's were under 7lb.
So........

Now look ere Madame, cut out the 20 minstrels for a start, right. Am going to have to whip you into shape, clearly !!

No it's the 1 hour reading you need to look at not 2 hours after eating. In pregnancy it's an hour. Yes I would worry if you had another two or more readings like that.

Thank you Ob. I do have a question if that's okay.

Dd is post op for a tonsillectomy and last night was the worst (We're at the stage where the scabs fall off). In my tiredness and to cope each time we woke I had to take a couple of Rennie. They aren't sugar-free as those aren't allowed during pg.

So I guess, technically my reading this mornin 5.8, wasn't a fasting one!?

And of course you're right about the minstrels but yesterday it was a WHOLE share-bag of maltesers. I never rarely eat like this when not pg, it's just my digestion doesn't seem to cope with real food.

So the question is woukd the Rennie have made the reading higher this morning?

Thank you Cheese and Leonie

I'll get on the pc soon and reply properly with my numbers etc. the nice guidelines do say 1 hour and give numbers too. :)

For the fortnight before birth my diet consisted solely of Mars bars, bananas, cans of Fosters and packets of Rennies.

You have my symapthy.

Right, trying to remember my readings now. I started testing with a monitor at 12 weeks pregnant and was put onto insulin at 13 weeks due to my numbers being high. They were being extra cautious with me due to my daughter being stillborn the year before at 37 weeks, I'll admit that right now. I am very happy about that though as the GD went undiagnosed with her pregnancy and was the most likely cause for her death.

My readings 1 hour after eating were 9.8 and similar through that week and then the insulin controlled it along with diet. I was careful with what I ate and was given guidelines on how many carbs at each meal to keep things stable.

My fasting readings were never high, only after eating. I had a very complicated and high risk pregnancy due to previous problems but also problems in that pregnancy too. I eventually got to around 30 weeks when I started having lots of hypos (low blood sugar) and I literally couldn't keep my numbers up over a weekend so I stopped the insulin as it was making it worse. I saw the hospital on the Monday and they confirmed that was the right thing to do and gave me a once over, trace, scan etc (I was having regular traces anyway for reassurance) and told me to start testing before meals too and only use the insulin if I was over a certain amount. I never was.

I was given steroids just in case and things carried on for a couple more weeks when it started again only this time there was no insulin to stop taking and I was having hypos many times a day. It was really scary actually as my body got so used to having low blood sugar that I couldn't feel them, I only knew when I tested.

I went back in that day, saw the consultant and he said enough was enough and that I'd done all I could and it was time for her to come out. This was at 33+ weeks. Saw my other consultant who agreed and after some in and out (scbu was full) I was induced.

That's a story in itself which I won't bore you with, just to say that I had one pessary and then they stopped it as scbu became full again, I asked to go home with they reluctantly agreed to but I went into labour anyway over 24 hours after the pessary. Only had a bishop's score of 3 too. I just made it back to hospital in the morning at 7cm, gave birth about 30 odd mins later, she came out back to back too.

It was odd as my sugars were completely the opposite to the beginning but they think that's what happened last time too. Something clearly happened at that point that made it necessary for her health to be outside. They told me it was better to have her out than in at that point as they couldn't tell me why my blood sugar was so low. It was literally coming out lower after eating than it was before I started and I had no control over it at all. I ate a lot trying to keep it up too.

Thankfully dd3 was ok after a 2 week stay in scbu and is now 11 weeks and all well, still on the small side though but she was a good weight for 34 weeks 5lb 12oz.

Sorry for the epic post! I just wanted to let you know what happened with me in detail and you can judge for yourself. Just trying to help and I know that not everyone will have the ending I did with losing dd2 but it does happen. I wasn't at risk of GD either, the only factor they could see that could influence it was me having pcos. It was a terrifying time, the whole of my last pregnancy.

I really wouldn't wish all the grief and sadness I still have on anyone though and I just wish to god they'd done something about it and found out before it was too late. I switched hospitals to have dd3 and they were fantastic thankfully. I had to be induced with dd2 after we found out she'd died, I can say it was the worst thing that's ever happened to me; losing her. I really wish you well and more than likely everything will be fine for you, just please don't take any unnecessary risks.

Here's the link for the nice guidelines www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf/CG063Guidance.pdf they're very useful actually and I found a helpful read. I must have read hundreds of articles and studies on GD over the past 16 months and how blood sugar relates to and affects the baby etc, all interesting stuff.

I hope that helps in some way.

Not sure how much sugar is in a rennie but I wouldn't have thought it would raise your blood sugar all that much to be honest.

Star, blimey, what a question. I meant, like an easy one, not a tricky one like that !!
No seriously, all medicines make blood sugars a tiny bit higher.
Plus, when you are unwell, it makes your blood sugars higher.
very tired can make you go very high, or very low, can make you swing.
Emotions and being stressed is the biggest 'killer' for diabetes and makes your diabetes go mad, often plummeting down low, or just unpredicatable.
Diabetes, is just a balancing act. and is so very very hard to manage. and just as you get it, it does something unpredictable, that you just can't even work out. nor can your diabetic nurse, or your consultant.
So, try. but try not to worry. because if you just try. that will be enough. because there is only so much you can do.
HTH

Oblomov when I was ill my blood sugars dropped, I was always contrary! Plus they steroids were supposed to make me go high and they only raised a little, had to stay overnight for monitoring when they did them. They raised past the 7.8 but not as high as I was worried about, this was when my sugars were going low though so maybe they would have gone lower otherwise.

I had a lot of stress in the pregnancy when she died, really need to stop thinking about it all :(

250 mg in a rennie tablet, star here.

Bear in mind that a teaspoon of sugar is 5 g and you need 20 rennie to get a teaspoon of sugar.

It's not that simple though, clearly, if you read anything that I wrote

I read it, Cheese. Sorry for your loss. Not simple at all.