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Can school try to get another school to take your DC?

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auntevil · 06/03/2012 18:03

Not my DS, but a friend's DS. We have been talking for some time about the fact that it looked like the school were deliberately trying to find ways to exclude her DS.
He has dx ASD. Not afaik high functioning - which might be the reason that they want to lose him off the role by yr6 (currently yr4)
School have contacted another school and discussed friends DS with a view to him going there. This is not at the request, or choice of my friend.
Suggestions as to any advice that I could give appreciated. I've only instigated a move at my choice, so don't know how it works from the other side.

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bochead · 06/03/2012 18:09

The official term for it is "managed move".

It's often used when the LEA doesn't want to permanently exclude a child (eg that may be what happens if she doesn't go along with it, unless she's smart).

Do have a look at the IPSEA site, specifically the section on exclusion as knowing what tools they'll use is half the battle. Then call them (usually after 7pm if you wanna get through).

Tell her to keep written record of everything. e.g i never used to say in a phone call what could be said in an email, (even down to simple stuff like my son was off with flu). It paid off as I had just enough ammunition to give my son a fair chance despite a LOT of lies told by his previous school.

auntevil · 06/03/2012 18:18

Trust me, she has shed loads of written evidence - with lots of contradictory reports Grin
I will tell her about IPSEA - not sure if she's used them before.
I think that she was surprised that they could do all this planning behind her back without telling her what they were doing.
We were wondering about confidentiality of sharing the information between schools where there is no safeguarding issue. Surely there should be parental permission to send files?

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TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission · 06/03/2012 18:32

Parent partnership? Ipsea, SOSSEN or ace depending on who she can get through to. I would not be happy at this going on behind my back and would be emailing to find out what was going on, whether it's breaking confidentiality or not they should still be keeping her informed, I take it he isn't statemented? What have the sen team said? Definitely stick to email with that lot, they rarely answer the phone. Where are they planning on moving him, tbh I'd only be happy with a base place!

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission · 06/03/2012 18:34

meant to say, it could be she's signed forms for sharing info when her ds has been assessed in school not realising that it may have had a few wooly words in that lets them get away with this.

bochead · 06/03/2012 18:36

You'll find confidentiality is a joke unless it's to prevent you getting access to info that you SHOULD have! They can always "invent" a safeguarding issue if they need to.

If she's on benefits Levenes do legal aid.

bigbluebus · 06/03/2012 19:09

Just to add to ninjas list of places to get advice, Contact a Family now run the national advice line for SEN issues (think ACE may have lost the contract but not sure).
Link here:
www.cafamily.org.uk/families/SEN.html

auntevil · 06/03/2012 23:47

She does have some outside agencies that come in and give her support. I know they have been helping her with witnessed minutes of meetings etc.
bochead you may have hit the nail on the head with the "inventing" issue as they tried to claim that - but could offer no evidence when she called them on it.
I will pass on suggestions when I see her tomorrow. Things seem to be happening every day at the moment for her. The escalation from a few exclusions before christmas to where she's at now is meteoric.

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bochead · 07/03/2012 00:07

2 smart moves I made when similar happened to me

1/ Put in application as a parental application for a statement (is she already has one ask for an early review). Exclusion is a sign SCHOOL isn't managing the child when a bona fide disability is involved and that SCHOOL needs more resources (often training!). Do this one right the F%*%k now, do not delay - it creates a layer of protection she'll be grateful for. It MUST be a parental application. The previous exclusions give her the evidence base.

2/ Engage decent independent education pyschologist to identify what support the kid SHOULD be getting.

Get straight onto the LEA SEN Officer - any school changes are her job description, so ensure she has received the statement letter Wink. Do go and look at the other school for yourself - it may be a helluva lot better for the child, or a dump - you really have no idea till you've seen for yourself. Do start researching other schools in the area for yourself.

She needs to be really proactive - my mistake was letting them catch me on "the back foot" so to speak.

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