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Toilet accident at school, Help before I do something I'll regret!

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feynman · 07/02/2012 23:04

Ok ladies, I need some measured responses here, becasue I'm feeling really cross. Bascially my son is 4.8 in reception. He is being assessed for ASD, he's dyspraxic and has sensory issues, (amongst other things). He has a statement and a full time ta. In his statement it says that he will need help with toileting.

Generally, he is capable of taking himself for a wee, although he struggles to get his clothes back up. He can also go for a poo, but struggles to clean himself properly so will end up sore. This is not usually a problem as he usually does not go at school, and waits until he';s home an I or dad will help him. Occassionally, when he does go at school, he comes home pulling at his bottom as he's obviously uncomfortable.

Tbh this has only happened very occasionally and has not been really bad so I've not made a big issue of it. Mainly becasue they are great at most things and I dont want to start on the wrong foot as I've been quite millitant in obtaining his statement and I think they think I'm a bit nuts anyway.

However today I got a phone call saying please could I come and collect my son as he had the runs and was in a mess. I got there expecting to find him in other clothes and needing to come home. What I actually found was my son naked from the waist down, covered in crap. To make it worse, it was everywhere, on the floor, on the walls, everywhere and he was stood in it!.

They had told him to try and clean himself up and to stay in the cubicle until I got there. They had then put cat litter on the floor over the mess. So to clarify, he's stood in bare feet in cat litter and shit. He has crap all down his legs and on his hands as he cant stand the feeling of the cat litter on his bare feet so hes leaning on the wall trying to rub it off one foot and then putting his foot back down only to try and rub it off the other foot. (This is how it ended up all over his hands and the walls).

As I've said he has dyspraxia and sensory processing disorder so he physically cant coordinate himself to do it and he cant stand the feeling of the cat litter.! All the time this is going on, other children are trying to come into the toilets! although tbf the TA did tell them to go to the other ones. It didnt stop them seeing him though. The ta told me she'd been told to leave him until I got there.

I rang the head and complained and she said it was their policy for parents to come in and deal with it. I pointed out that he still could at least have had a towel put round him and been moved away from it. Also that it was in his statement, that he would be helped with toileting. She asked if they had my permission to clean him up should it happen again and that they would note that down so in the future his ta would sort him. She seemed to think this resolved the matter. I hung up as my son needed the toilet again, but the more I keep thinking about it the angrier I'm getting.

Surley the fact that he has a statement saying he will need help with toileting just makes it worse, but shouldnt they have a duty of care, not to leave any child like that? and if they were concered about child protection type issues then why didnt they ask when they rang me if they could clean him up?

Someone please tell me what I should do. I feel really cross. I dodnt want to make waves for the sake of it, but I really dont want to think of any other child being left like this?

Sorry for rambling, if any one could tell me if this seems right or what the policies are regarding this in their school,s I'd be grateful

Thanks

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imogengladheart · 09/02/2012 11:08

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lisad123 · 09/02/2012 12:18

This is horrible to read, terrible behaviour on the schools part!
We had a shower installed at EBD unit i worked in as we had older boys who had toileting problems.
I cant belive ANYONE thinks this is appropriate behaviour.
What did head say?

SparkleRainbow · 09/02/2012 12:45

As a mum of a sen child, as a primary school teacher, as a governor of a primary school...this is a safeguarding issue....Not on behalf of an excuse for the staff to do nothing, no this is a safeguarding issue that they left your dc in this state...it is a form of abuse. Angry
I would recommend that you contact the Safeguarding officer for the LA and social services. The school were previously aware that your dc had toileting issues. It was their responisbility to ensure they had all paperwork in place, and suitable personel on call to help in such an event..not your job to second guess their ineptitude. Don't let this lie, you need to be able to send your child with confidence of appropriate care. BTW I have a friend whos "normal" child had toileting issues and had poo accidents every week, sometimes every day, his ms reception teacher cleaned him up, changed his clothes and dealt with it in house every time, just sending the dirty clothes home in a bag. That is what a professional should do. I am so Angry for you.

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cwtch4967 · 09/02/2012 15:28

I'm a governor at a ss - please follow this up to make sure it never happens again. I also feel it is a safeguarding issue.

richmond44 · 09/02/2012 17:41

Really got upset ready this. So sorry for you and your child. I would have taken some photos with my phone. This is totally unacceptable. The school have a duty of care towards your child. Leaving him in this state is bordering on negligent in my opinion. I would have taken photos and sent them to the local paper. Do follow this up with the Head. If there is any difficulties just mention basic human rights!

2old2beamum · 10/02/2012 14:37

I am afraid if that was my child I would seriously think of removig him from the school and informing the LEA. I feel your DS's basic human rights were ignored as auntevil said child protection " bollocks". I would be absolutely devastated poor little fellow.

bochead · 10/02/2012 15:04

Noone would bat an eyelid if a neighbour reported a parent who did this to SS. It is a safeguarding issue - it's wilful neglect of a vulnerable young child coupled with emotional abuse.

Write to the HT, copied to the school nurse, and chair of Governors + your social services dept.

  1. Describe factually what happened (no emotion).
  2. Make it explicit you consider this to emotional abuse and neglect
  3. Say that you expect a meeting to be held to draw up a care plan by X date.
  4. That you expect the care plan to be in place and fully implemented by X date.
  5. That you hope no ther child is ever placed at similar risk by this school ever again, and that perhaps the school needs to upgrade it's safeguarding training generally?
LocaBillmore188 · 15/09/2013 15:25

TBH this ain't that bad. I don't think I could clean up someone covered in shit unless they were my own kids and even then I'd have a part of me that didn't want to. As for the cat litter I don't know what that was for. At the end of the day what did you expect them to do really? Confused

PolterGoose · 15/09/2013 15:41

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theDudesmummy · 15/09/2013 15:56

Take another look at where you ae posting your opinion, Loca. You may wish to reconsider your input.

AgentProvocateur · 15/09/2013 16:09

Loca, FFS, stop posting on Zombie threads. Read the "getting started" section before you resurrect dozens of old threads.

sophj100 · 15/09/2013 17:06

I'm shocked and disgusted, on your behalf! My eldest (ASD) has problems on the pooh front and often has accidents, however to-date he has been cleaned up and changed. To leave him in his mess and not do so is terrible - even without a statement highlighting his need for help. As a parent, teacher, carer or a human-being, you should never stand by and leave a child like this. I feel for you as being upset and angry, in equal measure.

I did have to pick my son up one day, after he had had 2 accidents and although clean and changed, he was out of further changes, bit distressed and near the end of the day, so I collected him. However, the next morning they told me I had to wait 48 hours before he could return - 'school policy' et., with illness. I had a big job trying to explain it wasn't an illness, just a lot of pooh. You win one battle but the war rages on... aaaargh! Angry and Smile x

mymatemax · 15/09/2013 17:15

OMG That is outrageous, no person regardless of age or ability should be left like that.
I am pretty easy going, realise that a school have a difficult job to do but OMG I would be fucking furious, where was their respect for your son & his right to dignity.
I can say hand on heart if that were my sons school he would've been washed down & sitting having a cuddle waiting for me to collect him.

mymatemax · 15/09/2013 17:17

oops just realised this is an old thread. Still makes me [angry though]

2boysnamedR · 16/09/2013 00:12

Gosh - shocking! I hope she has replied by now? If not write to the governers and tell them you need a meeting within the next three days ( so its been a week in total) or your taking it further. Put it all in writing too

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