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Statement for DS who is refusing school? Any advice welcome!

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ToffeeWhirl · 04/02/2012 13:43

I am reposting this from the Special Educational Needs board because I think this gets more traffic.

Can anyone advise me on whether I should seek a statement for DS1 and, if so, what on earth I should be asking for in the statement? I'm at a loss.

I'll try to keep this brief (not easy!): DS (12) has a diagnosis of Tourettes, OCD and social anxiety. He has a history of school refusal because of anxiety and, during his last year of primary school, he was signed off sick for anxiety and educated at home. During this time, he was - finally - diagnosed. He was put on fluoxetine, which did wonders for his anxiety and OCD. He was also referred to a CBT therapist, who is still working with him.

DS1 started secondary school last term. He was given an EWO who worked to familiarise him with school. He was put in a special needs' class, which is smaller than usual and provides more support, and allowed to leave class if he felt anxious and go to sit with the house assistant. He had a very caring tutor, who kept an eye on him and kept in close contact with us.

He did really, really well. He made two new friends and loved being independent and socialising with them. He discovered that he loved drama. He did well in his lessons and was rewarded with lots of housepoints. He behaved very well at school and was given an award for not getting any 'behaviour logs' after a whole term.

However.... as the term went on, DS started having more and more days off sick. It was hard for me to know when it was anxiety and when it was a virus because the symptoms of anxiety are physical - stomach aches, sickness, headaches. Some days, I insisted that he went in, but would then get pitiful text messages from him from the school loos - 'Help me!', 'Feel awful. Don't know what to do', etc. I would either go in myself to sort it out, or tell him to go to his house assistant and she would look after him. If I asked DS what the problem was at school he would say it was just too noisy, too busy and too tiring.

By the end of term, he was just drained. He sent me and DH several texts over one morning that were just so sad - 'Save me!' said one. I walked down to school and waited in reception for him to walk by (it was lunchtime). This pale, sick-looking boy trailed past me - my son. We sat in reception and talked. His house assistant joined us. DS was still trying to work out how he could stay at school, but he looked too ill to be there. I took him home and he stayed off sick for the last two days of term.

Matters were then complicated because he came off his medication thanks to unacceptable side effects. This meant his anxieties shot sky high and he couldn't even leave the house, let alone go to school. He has now started on a new SSRI and we are waiting for it to work.

Since the start of the new term, he has only managed two full days. The school have sent work for him (at my instigation). DS is seeing a CBT therapist every other week and we have a review coming up with his psychiatrist later this month.

I had a meeting with the SENCO at the new school before the start of last term and asked her about getting him a statement. She said he wouldn't get one because he hadn't needed one at primary (I would dispute that - we actually had a lousy SENCO there who never got him the help he needed). She said the school could provide for his needs without a statement.

Well, the school isn't doing that, is it? He still can't manage school. But what would a statement ask for that would help him? He would absolutely hate any one-to-one support, although that might be exactly what he needs. I can guess at the kind of help he needs (exit card, safe place to go, possibly part-time schooling for a while), but surely there must be someone who can advise properly? When I asked the psychiatrist about it last year, she said that was an educational matter, but presumably she could give recommendations, couldn't she?

Not sure where to go from here. Any advice, anyone?

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c0rnsilllkrunninglikealaydee · 04/02/2012 17:03

Do you think that this school can meet his needs though? It does seem as if they are trying very hard to do so already.

c0rnsilllkrunninglikealaydee · 04/02/2012 17:07

I also have a secondary aged child who has difficulty attending school toffeewhirl. Feel free to pm me.

c0rnsilllkrunninglikealaydee · 04/02/2012 17:08
starfish71 · 04/02/2012 17:54

Hi Toffeewhirl just want to say that I have applied for a SA for my DS 13 (Dyspraxia & query Aspergers) as his difficulties have got so much worse since he went up to secondary school.

He is not currently able to attend school, just too stressed and anxious. I am hoping to hear if they are going to carry out assessment next week.

Cornsilk, good to know that you have a statement for similar difficulties, gives me hope. :)

starfish71 · 04/02/2012 17:54

currently unable to attend school that should have read, sorry.

c0rnsilllkrunninglikealaydee · 04/02/2012 18:02

hope you get some good news next week starfish Smile
it's incredibly stressful when your dc struggles to attend school isn't it?

starfish71 · 04/02/2012 18:08

Thank you, yes I really hope so. Am so stressed out about it all it is awful. DS is struggling to go out anywhere at moment let alone school.

Sorry for hijacking your thread toffeewhirl.

devientenigma · 04/02/2012 18:32

Can I just say my DS has had a statement since 2 year old. He's secondary age come Sept and has been out of school for over 2 year. We have just had his statement reassessed..... again.......still no further forward. However I have came up with some sort of support that is being looked into, however his statement has since been put on hold.

I take it from the name change corn, things are looking good??

ToffeeWhirl · 04/02/2012 18:58

Oh, thank you for all the replies. It's just comforting to know I'm not the only one.

c0rnsilllk - well, maybe the school can't meet his needs, but I don't know if any school can. I will PM you, if you don't mind, once I've finished bathtimes and bedtime routines (desperate to get very grumpy DS2 to bed asap).

starfish - so sorry that you are going through a similar situation. It is very, very stressful. My son is also struggling to go anywhere at the moment, which makes planning things almost impossible. How long has your son been off school? Do you teach him at home? Are you getting any help from the LA (private teaching/online teaching, for eg)?

devient - do you home educate or is your son's teaching covered by the LA? Sounds like you have also had a very difficult time.

I'm sorry my original post was so long Blush. It's hard to summarise what feels like an endless saga. But I really do appreciate people taking the time to read it and reply. I don't know anyone in RL with a child who refuses school and, although my RL friends are endlessly sympathetic, it is good to talk with people who are going through similar situations. I am good at seeking out advice from professionals in RL, but I don't really know where to turn this time. Maybe that's because most of the professionals don't seem to know what to do either, apart from trying to get DS back to school asap.

I would love to hear from anyone who was able to put measures in their statement that helped their school-refusing/phobic child to get back to school. I know it must be different for every child, but I would like to know what helped.

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starfish71 · 04/02/2012 19:10

At the moment he has had a bit of school work sent home. We tried last week just to get him to go to one lesson (favourite subject, lovely understanding teacher) but he could just not do it,

Did get him to the opticians this morning but it is heartbreaking seeing how difficult he finds it, am so worried about him. In an ideal world I would love him to go to a small sized secondary that had proper training in how to help/engage him but am trying to think positive about we will end up with.

And you are right it is comforting knowing you aren't on your own. Take care x

WetAugust · 04/02/2012 19:52

Hi

Secondary school is a very scary and challenging place for a child like yours who not only has chronic and severe anxiety but whose comorbid conditions probably make him visibly different from his peers.

Junior school would have felt a more secure place as he would have had the same class teacher who knew him for most of the day, lessons would generally have ben taught in the same classroom and he would have known his classmates well after many years in the same class.

All that changes in secondary school: a whole set of new classmates he won?t know, different teachers during the day, different classrooms to find his way to, more noise etc, etc.

That really does raise anxiety dramatically.

It may be that his current medication may need to be increased to cope with the additional anxiety.

But no amount of medication will substitute for a school environment that he really needs help to cope with.

He may need 1:1 support, or somewhere to retreat to when it all becomes overwhelming. He does need a full assessment of his difficulties and practical suggestions as to how he can be assisted. If school are telling you that they cannot do more it?s definitely time to apply for a Statement yourself.

Don?t wait for school to do this ? they will almost certainly just string you along without applying for an assessment themselves. The SENCO has as good as told you that- She said he wouldn't get one because he hadn't needed one at primary

That is just utter rubbish.

Children?s conditions change over time and sometimes deteriorate. Transition to secondary school and the strange environment can really damage a child who cannot cope with these dramatic changes. The SENCO is really not being helpful.

He has a history of school refusal
Please ? one thing ? do not call it ?SCHOOL REFUSAL?. I expect that's a term that the school introduced you to. If you call it that you play right into school?s hands. That phrase makes it sound like the child is chosing not to go to school when the reality is that school is an environemnet that is simply not meeting his needs. Would you go willingly to somewhere each day that caused you fear? Of course not. If the school environment could support his needs he would probably go willingly, but if he continues to be described as a ?scjool refuser? then he and not school will be expected to change ? and that?s something he is unable to do.

You should also be very aware of the fact that he may be being bullied. With difficulties such as this his disabilities may be very visible and mark him out as very vulnerable. You need to be very watchful. The fact that he?s texting you from the school toilets saying he?s scared would have the alarm bells ringing for me.

She said the school could provide for his needs without a statement

Really? It doesn't sound as though school has a clue on how to support him.

So, I would definitely apply for a Statement myself and would not be put off when this useless SENCO tells you that there?s no point in doing that / he won?t get one / there?s no money / he doesn?t need on etc or one of the many other lame excuses that will be trotted out.

He?s at the start of his secondary schooling. There is time to put things right. It may require a change of schools to a more supportive environment but continuing to expect him to settle into what he feels is a hostile environment or just keeping him off school when he feels he cannot cope is not a long-term strategy.

He needs the right level of support in the right school.

Best wishes

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/02/2012 19:55

Apply for the statement personally and ignore this SENCO who has really given you duff, not just to say shite, advice. They don't want the work associated with applying for such a document. Be his advocate, apply for it yourself.

A statement too will give him legal protection; nothing else the school offers does that and the support can be too easily curtailed or withdrawn if there is not statement in place. Currently your son is being failed by this school; I would argue he was failed in primary as well as his needs were not fully met there either. He will likely not receive full one to one support on a statement anyway; most of the support my son recives in secondary is group support. He won;t be the only one in his year with a statement and even if he was (unlikely) that does not matter.

You are your child's best and only advocate here. You will end up with him likely refusing school totally so prompt and decisive action is critical now. What has been tried to date has not worked and its having effects undoubtedly on your home lives as well.

www.ipsea.org.uk is a good website, look at that as well as contacting either ACE or SOSSEN.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/02/2012 19:59

What Wet August has said.

Secondary is a tough old game particularly after junior school and is a very different enviornment. It took some considerable time (at least a term) for some of DS's NT peers to adjust; for those who have additional needs that are currently not being met it is like Mount Everst to climb. My DS has been fortunate with regards to secondary and is happy there but this is primarily because his additional needs there are being fully met (a statement being an integral part of this).

c0rnsilllkrunninglikealaydee · 05/02/2012 00:42

I almost posted 'Don't call it school refusal because Wet August will come and tell you off.' Grin< and rightly so. >

WetAugust · 05/02/2012 00:50

Predictable? Moi?

c0rnsilllkrunninglikealaydee · 05/02/2012 00:52
Grin but I like it!
ToffeeWhirl · 05/02/2012 09:30

starfish - sounds like you are in a very similar situation to mine. DS was in such a state of anxiety about his CBT appointment a couple of weeks ago that he couldn't go into the usual room, then ran out whilst the therapist was trying to talk with him in the reception and went home alone. He couldn't even visit his Grandma last weekend, so she had to come to us instead. It is awful to see the state of agitation he gets into. The last time he tried to go into school, he was doubled up with stomach pains from the stress and only got as far as just round the corner from our house Sad. I am waiting for his new medication to work, as it was fluoxetine that changed all our lives for the better when he started on that. DS was still anxious, but it was manageable and he was so happy to be able to do 'normal' things. Have you thought of medication for your son?

WetAugust - I have reread your post several times because it is so full of useful information. Vital information even. I will not call it 'school refusal' anymore! You are quite right - that is a misnomer and does suggest my son has some control over it.

Re: bullying - you have made me think over this again. DS denies being bullied, but that may be because he doesn't define what happens to him as bullying. I know that DS has been called 'retard' twice (nice Hmm) and that he is unhappy when his best friend joins in with a group of other boys at lunchbreak because he doesn't like the other boys (who have 'form' for being unkind to another SN boy). Generally, however, he sticks with his two best friends and they seem to form a resilient little group. And I have been impressed by how caring the older children have been towards him (helping him when he's lost, etc).

Re: statement - I'm going to ignore what the SENCO says and apply for one myself.

Attila - thank you for your advice and the links. Those websites are brilliant - I am going to use their sample letters in my application for a statement. I take the point that help can be withdrawn if it is not protected by a statement.

Looking back over DS1's time at primary and secondary school so far, it is ridiculous that he doesn't have a statement already. When the SENCO at secondary school reassured me that he would get enough help without a statement and from being in a special needs' group with extra support, I doubted it but felt I had no other choice. I should have listened to my instincts, which have been proved right. The sad thing is that every time we get fobbed off, it leads to furthur suffering for DS Sad.

Off to print out useful info from Attila's links now...

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