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Sherlock Holmes has aspergers!!!!

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HolyCalamityJane · 08/01/2012 21:42

Just watching my favourite program Sherlock tonight and Doctor Watson said that Sherlock has aspergers. It's pretty obvious ofcourse but very rare that you hear it said Grin

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Dustinthewind · 08/01/2012 21:45

My DS likes playing Spot the Aspie. Smile
He added Sherlock after the first series, lack of empathy and inappropriate questions struck a real chord with him.
Sheldon, House, Sherlock...the new cool.

imogengladheart · 08/01/2012 22:12

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Dawndonna · 08/01/2012 23:15

We sussed it fairly quickly, but were really happy with the mention of it tonight, positives are great. Just can't decide who my favourite is now, after dh and the dcs.
Lisbeth Salander,
Sheldon Cooper,
Tony Hill,
Sherlock.
Decisions, decisions!
Grin

signandsmile · 09/01/2012 07:42

yeah, I thought it was fab too, and like the rest of you watched the first episode last year and said to dh 'is it me, or is he so obviously on the spectrum'?' Grin.

HolyCalamityJane · 09/01/2012 08:34

Dust in the wind - I love House got the boxset for Christmas and working my way through it I feel ridiculous now that I didn't even notice he was on the spectrum but I guess that is a really positive thing that you just admire their brilliance and find their lack of social skills and empathy funny and quirky. Haven't really seen much of the Big Bang theory.

Dawn- Tony Hill never noticed him either Blush I do love Wire in the Blood.

Roy Cropper (maybe not so much an inspiration) and Monk (he is just plain annoying)

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rabbitstew · 09/01/2012 08:59

I'm not convinced "House" is on the spectrum. They make a big thing of him deliberately behaving in an antisocial way and having perfectly good awareness of its impact. He seems like more of a sociopath to me... Sherlock, on the other hand, gets so excited by the power of his intellect that it never crosses his mind to consider the emotional impact - much more aspie.

mummytime · 09/01/2012 09:04

I'm not sure about House either. I think he's more sociopath, with hints of long term damage from his relationship with his Dad/ possibly Grandparents (although I'm not sure whether what he said in that episode was a lie or not).
He is also a drug addict.

The modern Sherlock, also has Mycroft showing fewer signs of problems than in the original books.

ArthurPewty · 09/01/2012 09:30

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/01/2012 09:39

The character called "Brick" in "The Middle" is on the autistic spectrum. Anyone else here seen "The Middle"?.

The character "Sheldon Cooper" is in the tv programme called "The Big Bang Theory".

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amberlight · 09/01/2012 13:59

Does he have a lack of empathy? Genuine question. Look at his reaction once he realises he's said the wrong thing to his friend - genuine worry. We do empathise, but we're total rubbish at showing it in the right ways/using the right tone of voice/getting the wording right. I've had to learn over the years to ask how people are feeling, and then explain how I'm feeling in clear words. Works fine then, but otherwise it's like saying people who are Blind aren't being empathetic if they don't compliment people on their new makeup. They can't see it. We can't see body language, face expressions, eye contact-meaning, or hear tone of voice, so it's SO hard to know what people need. Plenty of empathy to be found, but none of it on the surface Smile

mariamagdalena · 09/01/2012 14:26

Amber... you've just explained why my 8 year old asd ds1 (who often doesn't have a clue about the things you've described) can somehow still be so much more 'genuinely empathetic' than his sister (who is only 5y, probably NT, and definitely a bit of a madam at times)

Thank you!

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Ineedalife · 09/01/2012 17:31

Leonie, I agree about House having Narsisitic [sp] personality disorder.

We think my Dad has it , he offends people deliberatly and he uses people to help him get what he wants and then throws them away.

Haven't watched Sherlock but I might have to now.

Dd3 does have some empathy but its often towrds odd things like she feels sorry for one teddy if she cuddles the other one but doesn't understand that telling her sister her top makes her look fat doesn't register at all.

rabbitstew · 09/01/2012 17:53

It's the difference between knowing how you should behave but deliberately behaving in a way calculated to cause upset, which is House, and not intending to upset at all, but realising too late that upset is a by-product of what you have said or done, which is Sherlock.

Dustinthewind · 09/01/2012 17:56

Ok, I'll accept that DS is wrong in including House. Smile
Sherlock and his lovely cheekbones has replaced him anyway, and Sheldon's wonderful phrases when explaining exactly why people should see things his way.

FlyingFig · 09/01/2012 18:40

We are all massive 'The Middle' fans here, love that show Smile Brick is lovely and quite often does and says things that remind me and DP of DS!

SauvignonBlanche · 09/01/2012 18:45

DS wouldn't believe me when I said in the last episode that he had AS, it was great to have my diagnosis confirmed last night.
DS, who has AS, wasn't watching it though. He says he'll get it on the iplayer, I'm going to make him! [grib]

SauvignonBlanche · 09/01/2012 18:46

Sorry, Grin, obviously!

StarlightMcKenzie · 09/01/2012 18:56

What channel are Sherlock and the middle on? Is it pay tv?

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characidae · 09/01/2012 19:08

I think both the two most recent episodes are still on iplayer.

I wonder if they intended for Sherlock to have Asperger's or if they wrote it in this series as a results of everyone saying 'oh he must have Asperger's'. There was an episode in the first series when he was deliberately flirting with Molly (I think that's her name, the lab assistant?) in order to get information - that sort of manipulation didn't strike me as very Aspergic.

I agree that House is more psychopathic - he enjoys demeaning people.

WeWishYouAMerryPisstake · 09/01/2012 19:12

My fairly severely autistic (in terms of social skills/ behaviour) son can spot/ differentiate between tones of voice and facial expressions perfectly, so not the same as you, Amber - but I guess autism is never any one thing. Ds can tell others' tones/ expressions but is unable to modulate his own!

FlyingFig · 09/01/2012 19:22

The Middle is on Sky 1 (repeats shown on Sky 2, I think). As far as I know it's never been directly said on the show that Brick is on the spectrum, it more alludes to his 'quirkiness', but when you watch it you just know (like when he repeats the tail end of sentences or whispers to himself etc).

He's a great character and in all honesty I think in some way helped DP come to terms with DS's ways; the fact it doesn't mention his ASD but shows him as part of a family unit and the various relationships/dynamics involved is a positive move, if that makes sense? (tired head on, sorry!).

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