angry screaming and shouting from 5am onwards everyday, why does he do this?

[himynameisfred]

My son is nearly 5, Autistic, very delayed understand and speach.

He gets so angry!

5am I start hearing the growling and distressed noises, like he's fighting for his life, he comes to mey room and says 'mummy I want cbeebies'.
I say it's too early it's not on. (he doesn't understand what I'm saying) so starts shouting' I WANNA CBEEBIEEEEES' M'MUMMY GET CBEEEBIES'
And he growls and roars and screams and ticks until I get up.
This is routine now.
I get up and say right lie down in bed, so long as I hold his hand he'll stay there and he demands that I stroke his back or something.
I am utterly exhausted.

We go to bed at 8.30 each night and I read stories and pamer him for a good hour, with his little brother, then he goes to sleep at about 9.30, no chance in hell is he tired enough any sooner, then he's still up at 5am!!!
This child needs far less sleep than me,
I'm anemic and exhausted as it is. I'm just hanging on by a thread.

Why does he get so angry? even if one of his favourite them tunes comes on, he'll cover his ears and smile at best or start pushing me and screaming at worst as he things I might sing along and that's sensory overload for him.

Please, anyone else share if they know of any other child acting this way?

I have no friends with special needs children. It's so tiring.

Tired mum :p

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Sorry I can't help with DS tho.

PS I suffered chronic exhaustion for years (pre DSs though)

could he be overtired? And that is why he is so angry when he wakes up? Sometimes stress makes ASD children even worse at sleeping. I know that my (not very severe) ASD child woke very early, and had much worse sleep patterns than his siblings, BUT we had to keep working at the routine, and the cues to sleep. So for example at 5yrs he was asleep at 7.30, after story and bath, and woke between 6.30 and 7, with interrupted sleep at night too (he came into our bed at 2am and slept happily there) We found that bad enough, so we really tried very hard to get him to bed earlier than one might have thought necessary and keep his routine exactly the same. When he was completely worked up he didn't go to sleep easily and slept even worse - I think most adults react in the same way to stress - they sleep badly even when tired...

Exercise, and quite a low key day helped his sleep patterns. Too many excitements completely ruined his sleeping.

Could you try moving bedtime slowly forwards, and change the routine so that he never ever watches CBeebies when he wakes, so that after a bit he won't associate it with rising? I think all children NT or SN will wake themselves to watch telly, a bit like children waking at the crack of dawn when Santa is expected.

Hi, thanks.
I've followed that advice now.
I realised that's not what I want for my children anyway, them watching cartoons every morning as standard.
Today and yesterday morning I've not allowed Cbeebies at all in the morning, and it's much better.
They're staying at the table to eat their breakfast, and running around playing together instead of staring at the TV.

And I have x-mas music on tv :)

He has woken at 8am today and yesterday, thank god, and asked for cbeebies immediately, but that should die down like you say.

I took them to bed at 7.30 last night and read stories for an hour and was able to leave them both at 8.30 last night and they stayed in bed :)

I'm going to stick with 7.30 from now on.

Thanks for your advice, it's been a big help.

AlsoI'll look into those suppliments, thank you x

Hi Fred my normally quite good sleeper has gone to pot recently. We reckon its lack of exercise in winter. So yesterday he had big walk in the morning, swimming in the afternoon and then the sod fell asleep on the way back from swimming. So he was up half the night singing to himself...... again.
I agree with op's that co sleeping can be good. My dh is agin though and I don't argue to hard with him.

Glad things are improving for you.

so glad that helped Fred
it's sweet when they play first thing in morning isn't it?

Yes,
you guys on mumsnet can be really uite helpful, lol.
Thank you

Yesah it's lovely seeing them play together, even though DS doesnt really speak or play with anyone at nursery, he loves his little brother massively, bext thing I ever did, having DS2.
And to think I was worried at the time because of DS1's needs. Pfft
Love having more than one kid :) x