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How hard is it really? arrrrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!!

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Triggles · 11/12/2011 19:28

Sorry, but I need a serious vent here.

Took DS2 and DS3 to adult DD's house (5 minute walk just around corner from us) today as it's DGS's birthday party.

We arrive on time, she's running late and just finished making their lunch. So she then proceeds to feed herself, her houseguest (old school friend visiting for a few days) and DGS in front of us. She does apologise, but then of course DS2(5ys) and DS3(2ys) say they're hungry. She hands them each a packet of crisps or something similar (cheese crackers or something?) and they finally finish eating about 20 minutes later.

She has a cat, and the cat's bowls and litter box (overflowing with litter ewwwwww whole new thread for that YUCK!) on the floor, in the living room, where we are sitting. We generally go in living room and close the door as she has a dreadfully steep staircase leading from her front door up to her main living area, with no door blocking entrance to it at the top (fire hazard due to backdraft concerns so cannot put door at top according to council). Keeping everyone in living room means we can make sure DS2 & DS3 do not fall down the stairs (important as they both have coordination issues and DGS has a tendency to get pushy when he's having a strop over something).

DD spent the entire time we were there telling the boys not to touch the cat, the food bowls, video games on a shelf at their eye level, stuff strewn all over her desk, etc etc. I also spent the whole time trying to keep them out of everything, as well as the damn litterbox, which (although I KNOW DD knows better!!) was right there where the boys could mess with it. Then DGS starts bossing the boys around, telling them not to touch everything. Then her HOUSEGUEST starts the same thing - telling them not to touch, but they're mostly focusing on DS2, as with the 3 of them all constantly going at him, as well as MIL saying things to him, and me trying to keep him out of mischief, he's not processing ANYTHING! And just getting worse and worse, until he finally had a meltdown.

I took him into another room to calm him down, and DD came in just as I was making progress and said "shall we all go back into the living room then and have a drink?" arrrrgggghhhhhh!! So of course, DS2 wants to go back into living room, and it all starts all over again.

So ... knowing that this is DS2's older sister, who KNOWS him. Wouldn't you think she could have :
1- RANG us to tell us she was running late, so we weren't sitting around for 20-30 minutes while they were eating - incredibly rude and sent DS2 right around the bend!

2- Relocated the cat into a bedroom with it's food and litter box so (knowing both our children are very hands-on.. DS2 due to SNs and DS3 because he's 2yo) it was safely out of the way

3- Realised that having her, her houseguest and her 6yo son bossing around DS2 (when I am talking to him and trying to manage his behaviour at the same time!) is counterproductive.

I'd expect something like that from people that don't know DS2... but it's his SISTER FFS!! I am so steamed right now. I actually said something to her houseguest at one point, because she was getting right stroppy with DS2, which really pissed me off. We left soon after that, as I knew I was going to go off soon and really say something dreadful.

Then, of course, we had DH who still thinks that a lot of DS2's behaviour is simply being a brat - rather than SNs. He gets stroppy and impatient with DS2 all the time, and I'm just about ready to scream. He can't even go up and take DS2 to the toilet without spending the whole time grousing about "hurry up, I'm in the middle of something, come on... " and on and on. And for the love of God, DS2 is all about routine and DH blows it off constantly and then wonders why he has a meltdown!! I am SO TIRED of living with the negativity. It's soul destroying, it really is.

And the stupid therapy appointment he had last week, was an ASSESSMENT. They said they'd contact him in February to make arrangements for the actual therapy to start soon after that!! Shock We've only been trying to get therapy for him since before summer!!!!! Angry

I think I'm just tired of people being stubborn and talking a good game about how they understand he has SNs, then treating him like he is just a naughty child. And I'm tired of being the only one that seems to make the effort to understand him and work within his coping skills at any point. And then I hear "oh, but you're so good with him, he cooperates so much better with you..." well that's because I LISTEN to him and PAY ATTENTION and actually THINK about how things affect him, rather than stomping all over his concerns because they are inconvenient. Angry

Yes. having a bad day. MIL asked me re DH is perhaps he is having more difficulty due to depression getting worse again, and I said "no, he's just being an ass." Hmm Grin To give her credit, she just nodded and said "oh, okay then, that's fair enough." Grin

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Triggles · 11/12/2011 19:29

And yes, I apologise for the length. I will understand if nobody gets to the end of that. I just needed to get it out.

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NoHaudinMaWheest · 11/12/2011 19:39

sounds like a complete nightmare. No wonder you want to let it out. What can I say when it goes on and on. Sending hugs and a large cup of coffee.

PurplePidjInAPearTree · 11/12/2011 19:42

YANBU. At all.

But you will at some point need to talk to DD about how rude and unhelpful she was, otherwise it'll all just happen again

at not cleaning the shitty litter out with guests in the house. The only time I haven't done that is when SIL and MIL brought the DN's round and I didn't know what time they were ariving (thanks, DP!!) so they caught me on the way upstairs to do it - DNiece has ASD and, if she'd gone upstairs (unlikely) she'd have been straight in there so it needed to be the last job done iyswim

Triggles · 11/12/2011 19:49

NoHaudinMaWheest Thanks. Could use a coffee right now. Grin

Purple I know I need to speak to her, but it will have to wait until her house guest leaves later this week. I cannot deal with that right now. DD has become, shall we say, a bit self-centred lately about a few things and it's really creating some conflict within the extended family, so yes she is going to hear a few things she probably won't like. .. And we had a cat when she was young - ALWAYS kept the litter box cleaned out. bleah!!

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PurplePidjInAPearTree · 11/12/2011 19:54

I'm so so careful when DN comes - she hates other people's houses normally and they live 2 hours away, so I'm really honoured that she likes it here!

Sn or not, cat litter should always be clean and/or away around young children.

Sn or not, young children take longer to do things - they're learning how, it's not as practised as an older child or adult!

Triggles · 11/12/2011 20:02

Yup, I agree with you completely. Children require patience. I just don't know why many people seem to find that so difficult a concept?? Confused

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PurplePidjInAPearTree · 11/12/2011 20:05

I know, how hard is it really? You wouldn't expect an adult to, I don't know, sit at a piano for the first time ever and play Chopin so why expect a toddler to accurately wipe their own arse?

imogengladheart · 11/12/2011 20:05

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Ineedchristmascake · 11/12/2011 21:50

I have similar issues with Dd1, she willingly accepts that Dd3 has ASD but refuses to support her in any way, in fact since Dd3 was Dx'ed in September Dd1 has become even less tolerant of her.

She just says she is a spoilt baby and I allow her to get away with itXmas Confused.

I have given up trying to talk to her about it becasue I know it is going to end in a blazing row and as I am currently her main source of childcare I don't want to end up saying something one of us might regretXmas Grin.

coff33pot · 11/12/2011 22:18

Triggles...................................BREATHE Grin

You have just made me more adamant not to visit the inlaws at xmas. I nearly relented today seeing as they havent visited or spoken to DH (its my fault but he always gets it in the neck for not training his wild stubborn wife properly Grin)

But no I am sticking to my guns. I am suprised you didnt have a meltdown yourself xxx

Triggles · 11/12/2011 23:14

coff33pot well done for sticking to your plans. I do dread some holidays as the chaos seems to really set off DS2.

This year it's just MIL coming to our house. DD and DGS are actually spending Christmas with her boyfriend and his father, so that's fine. They're just popping in to visit on the day for a short time. So fairly normal day for us in regards to that.

I ranted for a bit when we got home from DD's. MIL was still with us, and I felt badly as she said "oh I'm so sorry, I was talking to DS2 as well - I won't do that again." So I was a bit embarrassed, but at least I know she won't do that, even if others do.

I am sitting here hours later, and can still fume about it, so am trying to be ever so good and chalk it up to general stupidity. Hmm I'm not getting together with DD until after her houseguest is gone, then I'll speak to her. She really needs to start thinking before she speaks. Hmm

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coff33pot · 11/12/2011 23:30

Well we have done it every year and it is a nightmare.

Run of the day:

Presents dont go under our tree at home santa goes to two houses Confused
We cant get there till after 3 due to shop so DS by then is settled at home for the day and really wants to go nowhere and he has only wound down from the xmas day chaos.

We get there.....presents are handed out one by one to each person in a circle. (they dont open theirs on xmas day but wait till boxing day for us Confused

THEN we all have to open one present at a time and then the next person and then the next. That means the kids too.

By then DS has had enough of sitting let alone waiting and its hot and stuffy and crowded.

Football goes on grrrrr. Then its shhhh ds, shhhh quiet, Which to me TV/radio on when you have guests is bad manners we were always taught to turn things off or down.

Then buffet..........layed in dining room but people are eating with plates in dining room on sofas, chairs, or sitting room. DS got confused as where to go as he wanted to be with me and also with grandparents and so he got told off for walking around house with plate. Then told off because he got up with his plate just like the adults to go help himself just like them. To have to listen to the "in my day children didnt do this that or the next thing"

Ending? one very tired, frustrated, bouncing and screaming boy. One annoyed eldest DD who stormed out the garden for fear of telling the inlaws how horrible they were being to ds (she is very protective of him even if he does wind her up :))

And so? this year = day off. I have told DH that he can go by all means and take the older ones (eldest dd would rather not) And DS and I can have the house to ourselves actually look at what presents he had the previous day and then take dog on the beach Grin and to top it all 2012 will be nice and quiet because no one will be talking to me HEAVEN.

Triggles · 12/12/2011 00:15

coff33pot oh my! I don't blame you for not wanting to go! What a nightmare for your DS!! There's no way DS2 would be able to cope with that!

We're planning on being home for Christmas AND Boxing Day. MIL coming over for Christmas and going home on Boxing Day so she can have a drink or two without worrying about driving (our suggestion), and DD popping by for a brief visit. DS1 & DIL (and DGS2) will be coming up to visit on the 24th for the day, but going home in afternoon so they can enjoy Christmas at their own home. So in short, we're not going anywhere!! Hurrah!!! Smile

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coff33pot · 12/12/2011 00:21

Sounds like a good planned out Christmas! :)

DH is looking forward to it lol as it is our only day off together. We are VERY selfish and share it with no one but the children Grin

Triggles · 12/12/2011 08:58

That's just it. I enjoy the whole thought of everyone together and a huge family Christmas. But the logistics are just too much, and honestly about the time we're all together for about an hour, DS2 is so overloaded that it just makes it miserable. So the smaller celebrations are much better all the way around.

And I refuse to go spend Christmas at someone else's house at this point, as I would have to spend the entire time hypervigilant with both boys. And where's the fun in that? At least at our house we know it's safe.

Although saying that, in referring back to yesterday's fiasco at DD's house, she had initially asked if we wanted to have the party at OUR house. Hmm I realise, upon further thought, that she was looking at it from the "safe" standpoint. But you'd think if she recognised that some things were less than safe or difficult to cope with at her house, that she'd make an effort to do something about it if the party is at her house (such as moving the cat and litter and such). If it had been at OUR house, I'd have had to do a massive clean, and we couldn't have left - we'd have been stuck with extra people in our house for ages all afternoon!! and we'd have had to clean up afterwards! Not my idea of a good time either. At least with it at her house we could leave.

sigh.. is it any wonder we often end up feeling isolated and reclusive sometimes?

On the other hand, I AM looking forward to school being off on Friday afternoon until after New Years. I enjoy having DS2 home during the day, even if it is more hectic. School senco did seem shocked that I wasn't looking for some type of respite over school holidays. I was a bit snarky when I told her "I love my son and we miss him when he's in school all day. We LOVE having him home over the holidays all day. There's no way I'd try to get respite for that!" Hmm

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tabulahrasa · 12/12/2011 09:04

Can I just say, I wouldn't move my litter tray, I'd rather sit in front of it redirecting children rather than run the risk that one of the cats goes to the toilet, can't find the tray and picks somewhere else to go, or tries to go in whatever room I'd moved the tray to after I'd moved it back. It's the one thing I've always been funny about, because you can't really housetrain cats if they decide they're going somewhere else, not like dogs

Not that that excuses the rest of it mind

Triggles · 12/12/2011 12:08

tabulahrasa Actually, because we had my sister's children visiting us quite a bit when they were young, when we had a cat we had two litter boxes. One in a corner of the main room and one in a back room. When the children were there, we moved the cat to the back room, so the cat wasn't "played with" and still had a familiar litter box. It's really not rocket science, is it?

And DD did not redirect children, she stood right next to it, handing them each a packet of crisps. Both children tend to drop food and pick it up and eat it, so not exactly hygienic to be giving them food right next to the litter box.

And it was overflowing with litter (litter on the floor around it) and had some cat poop in it, so not exactly clean either. (Not sure why she had the damn thing so full of litter, you don't need it full to the rim, they just kick it all out when they're digging IYKWIM.)

It's probably because we raised her to be more considerate of these types of things, so I imagine that's one reason why I am irritated over it all.

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coff33pot · 12/12/2011 12:10

I think that depends on the cats tabulahrasa. All are so different (like our kids Grin) I have 5 of them and all rescue and so not so trusting of outsiders. If I have a houseful of people three of my cats would run out the door and not come back till all is clear, but I do have two that I put upstairs out the way with their litter tray with no problems. To be honest if I left the litter trays downstairs and everything as norm those two cats would wet anywhere than go near a chaotic room to use the tray.....

Triggles · 12/12/2011 16:48

having one of those days. Honestly. again. sigh

Probably shouldn't have wandered into AIBU then.... Grin oops....

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coff33pot · 12/12/2011 17:25

You didnt!!!!! Shock

Triggles · 12/12/2011 17:36

Of course, I did... I'm pretty sure I've either killed a thread or it will go ballistic shortly. Grin What can I say? I was BU. Grin

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coff33pot · 12/12/2011 17:41

Surely if you want to pick a fight there are easier options like beating up your teddy bear or chewing a pillow Grin

Triggles · 12/12/2011 17:44

WHAT?!?!?! Hurt my teddy??? No wayyy!

snort

ah... the responding whinging begins... gotta love it....

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Triggles · 12/12/2011 17:44

on the thread in AIBU, I mean.. not you.. hahahhaa

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coff33pot · 12/12/2011 17:49

nothing like an agrivated woman with a big spoon Grin