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lisad123 · 29/11/2011 09:34

Need your wisdom on this thread.

I have a serious anger on and want to email head office with a nice quote on how they are discriminating against the disabled, help me please

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dolfrog · 30/11/2011 12:43

lisad123

You could have a look at my Disability links list and click on one or two of the tags at the bottom of each link for more specific info.

tabulahrasa · 30/11/2011 12:57

I think charging for closer accommodation when it does make things more equal for a person with physical disabilities is financial discrimination - a shuttle bus while better than nothing is not as good as just being closer and it almost seems like profiting from disability IMO.

I do think though that the early check in is different - yes your DM does impact your ability to queue, but it's also about having a largish group with children and dogs and what time you choose to arrive at...which is all the same for a lot of people.

If it was me I'd suck that one up and concentrate on complaining about the unjustness of having to pay to extra for closer accommodation.

coff33pot · 30/11/2011 13:16

I dont go on holiday so have never experienced these issues but I dont think you are being unreasonable. You would even think they could make a concession in this case seeing as you are regular visitors.

I can understand the early check in fee as that would apply to anyone so is a fair demand.

Hotels have rooms kitted out for disablilities but people are not charged extra and pay the same room rates.

Hope you get a result and a less stress free holiday.

tocha · 30/11/2011 17:43

re:early check-in v late check in so you miss the rush - is there a health reason why it's better for your mother to travel earlier in the day Lisa? I do agree with tabula that a shuttle bus doesn't sound a very adequate compromise - not all wheelchairs etc would be suitable for the shuttle bus, and it doesn't sound to follow a reliable schedule.

sashh · 01/12/2011 06:40

don't email - write, recorded delivery to the chairman / top director etc - it will be read by a secretery but will be brought to someone important's attention.

"I am formally requesting reasonable adjustments be made under the DDA, and request that you do not discriminate against me or my family because of our protected characteristics under the Equality act. Both of these have prevfiously happened.

I have a booking X, for medical reasons the chalet needs to be withing Y distance of Z.

My family are unable to queue, we do not mind waiting but cannot physically queue so we need you to either take us to the front of the queue or have a member of staff queue for us."

just put in writing exactly what you need and why and ask for a reply within 7 days.

raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 14:17

If you read the original thread - the op has found a closer villa - but was also has been reassured that the shuttle bus is fine and realised that her Df and Dm could just arrive a little later as they are in a separate car so no need to even wait let alone queue which her DH was going to do anyway.

No need for ''someone important's'' attention just some help from MN.

lisad123 · 01/12/2011 14:20

I havent found a closer villa :( it said £99 extra which we could afford between us but when completely look at price its £180 extra :(
WE have just decided to struggle on and hope the shuttle bus is ok, but will still be writing letter of complaint. Maybe then they will consider that closer apartments might be a nice thing for some but for others a need rather than a want!

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OnTheBen10DaysofChristmas · 01/12/2011 14:21

raspberryroop not sure if you are aware that you are posting on the Special Needs: Children topic. We try to keep this topic free of people attacking each other. You appear to be unneccessarily antagonistic towards Lisad123 who clearly has a lot on her plate and is a very helpful poster on this topic. I haven't seen you on this topic apart from to pick at Lisa.

OnTheBen10DaysofChristmas · 01/12/2011 14:23

Ok take it back having looked at your posting history but I still feel that there is no need for it.

lisad123 · 01/12/2011 14:30

thank you Ben10, Blush

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lisad123 · 01/12/2011 14:40

also dont understand why you didnt say this on the AIBU thread, they only thing you said on there was "I have 2 kids with SN and a mother who has had a stroke - to me the extra fees are what DLA is all about" and thats "no wonder no alton towers ect are changing disability rules", but you feel it ok to follow me in here and spout loads of stuff about how "entitled" I am, and "The respected poster is not making her life any easier by not looking at her own attitude" ??!

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 01/12/2011 14:53

As I said before, Lisa, she's not making many friends here.

raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 16:24

Why - because there are so many thing that ARE discrimination, that really need fighting for, that really need ''attention'' from someone important. So many thing that the ''main stream'' need to know and be aware of that would really change disabled peoples lives. To go on AIBU and call a company diabalist idiots and then not take on board so many very good suggestions and also to come up with a reason why non of them would work ! I feel is a disservice to people trying to make real changes.

It just reinforces the Daily Mail attitude that anyone with a disability is out for something for nothing !

raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 16:33

and Ben 10 - I have 2 children with SN - one who is violent and aggressive, I care for my frail, mother 2 days a week and I have a DH with severe mental health problems. I also have a disability my self but would still look for ways to accommodate / facilitate our holiday before I looked for upgrades and conveniences that other people have to pay for unless it was absolutely necessary and then I would probably pay as I say that is what DLA is for - the clue is in the title Living Allowance.

And I didn't say it on the AIBU thread because I though it should die and really didn't want to bang on on in the busiest place on MN

raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 16:50

But I can be nice on here and rant on AIBU if you want ?

In ''real'' life I campaign for and am an advocate for a two people with profound special needs - its hard enough out there as it is.

lisad123 · 01/12/2011 17:37

Well as I said is my op, the reason for the closer villa is for my mum, and she doesn't get her DLA yet. I have been going to cp every year for past four years and have never once asked for anything extra for my girls who have SN.
Why should I pay for a closer villa? I'm not asking because it's nice I'm asking because it puts my mum in par with everyone else, and so she should be!! Why should she take 30-40 mintues to walk and 10-15 trip just to please people??
Don't tell me I'm causing problems for everyone else and making DM right?! I have spent years fighting for not just my girls but many families. Just because it might seem unfair to jo public that disabled persons might get something extra, it doesn't mean it is.

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coff33pot · 01/12/2011 18:41

lisad........dont bite mate :) sometimes people have opinions and are unbudging in there view.

At this present time you have a LOT on your plate and things have happened since booking the holiday. To you it is a big deal and very understandably so. You are right to be and feel put out xx

coff33pot · 01/12/2011 18:45

rasp..........you are being a grump so cheer up :) You made your feelings and opinion clear so there is no need to keep on as everyone has different views in life and not everyone is going to agree with you either......

justaboutstillhere · 01/12/2011 20:32

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raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 20:54

There is a shuttle bus. Were is the discrimination?

Please and I ,mean really please show me the discrimination?

coff33pot - passive aggressive doesn't even cover it on the other thread and calling me a grump and putting a smiley face in - please !

coff33pot · 01/12/2011 21:22

The smiley face is to show you that it was written in the sense of a LIGHT tone and not meant to be offensive. Unfortuntely we cant do voice overs here.

And as for wether the AIBU thread is passive agressive I dont go into AIBU unless someone here needs back up. I hate the place.

raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 21:25

Coff33pot I ment you on the social skills thread.

coff33pot · 01/12/2011 21:35

I wasnt passive or agressive on any thread. I stated that I didnt agree with a comment of yours that was all. It wasnt meant to be taken as agressive but merely an oppinion. I wouldnt have even given another reply but you didnt get what I was trying to explain and so I tried better to explain myself as I told you in the post it was a difficult day and I obviously didnt and hadnt explained. Seems it was you who "didnt want a bun fight". Unlike you I dont expect nor want everyone to agree with me. The idea of this SN board is to help, give ideas or suggestions or examples so the posters can gain something to form their OWN ideas on things.

I give up with you

raspberryroop · 01/12/2011 22:07

I will comment no more on this thread but I think passive aggressive is a bit like discrimination - all in the eye of the beholder

GloriaTheHighlyFlavouredLady · 01/12/2011 22:13

Wtf is going on here?

Rasp why are you looking for trouble? SN boards can get heated, sometimes there are some strong disagreements but pretty much always there is respect and understanding.