<Daily Mail Alert> Autism linked to high achieving parents

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Personally I avoid these theories where the blame falls on the mother. For gs I carried the 3 of them in pregnancy, they all look like their father, and there si no way DS could have inherited my brain else he wouldnt have had any issues :)

and yes, I was the best in maths at my age in my country, got a first in computer science even though I couldn't put a proper grammatically correct sentence in English when in uni, most in my family (well if not all ) are musicians, dh is the most gifted handyman according to clients with his own apd issues so according to the study DS is the perfect product, wondering what went ' wrong ' with ds2???

If you can't steer lingle it's the best time of the year (fewer people to hit )

I dont know Lenin. I cant see things being improved.

Maybe it will be improved in the sense that joe public would then be more accepting of HF kids and their quirks because they will go forward and possibly have good standing in jobs etc.

On the down side all I can see where this is going is basically any help being withdrawn other than extra tuition to challenge their minds. Proffs, schools etc just saying to us that they are just geeky kids who will grow out of it because they are bright enough to do so. Any chance of dx will go right out the window because they dont need one.

I see a mess. I see a lot of kids suffering depression and a lot of unnecessary suffering.

Can anyone explain if there is a link between ADHD and autism? There are lots of electronics whizz kids and engineering geeks on my dad's side of the family, and several cousins are on the spectrum, but I am convinced I have ADHD.

I have both ASD and ADHD traits, but have always been very empathetic

DS is being observed at school as he is having problems, but again it looks more like ADHD

There's a lot of overlap, annoyingdevil. DS1 has both, Without his ADHD, he pobably would be very high functioning, but his particular combination of ASD, ADHD, intelligence and anxiety makes for an extremely volatile mix. DS2's ASD might seem to be a lot more severe than DS1's, but looking after him is a walk in the park in comparison because, so long as the world isn't too asymmetrical and his food is browner and crunchier, he's so much calmer.

Jimjams your posts make me laugh. You should put them and your more serious point on your blog.

I would be interested to see what Ben Goldacre (is that the right name?) makes of SBCs survey.

Bad science column in the guardian or times I forget which.

BTW this 'high achieving women to blame for autism' type story was in the Sunday times a couple of weeks ago. Can't share a link.

i thought i'd seen it before somewhere, oodles. was it based on the same 'research'?

devil, the jury is still out with ds1's quirks. i see a lot of overlap, but it is also complicated by the anxiety/ phobic stuff. and lenin's point about context is very valid. the school system really isn't designed for quirky kids, just ones that are capable of conformity.

ouryve

Research in recent years has been investigating the links between ASD and ADHD. Currently they estimate that 40% of those diagnosed as having ASD have ADHD. I you might like to have a look at this small collection of research papers ASD and ADHD

Yes I heard it in August. Not sure where it was first published. It's based I'm 'research' in silicon valley and the dutch equivalent.

Some of those look interesting, dolfrog - particularly the one about how ADHD does appear to affect people with ASD in a particular way. When DS1 started on atomoxetine for his ADHD, almost immediately, before his hyperactivity even began to decrease, his ability to communicate with us about how he was feeling emerged from nowhere.

oodlesofdoodles

I think the research paper you are looking for is this one
Are Autism Spectrum Conditions More Prevalent in an Information-Technology Region? A School-Based Study of Three Regions in the Netherlands
and you may find this one of interest too
Sur la prévalence de l?autisme et des troubles envahissants du développement (TED) Prevalence of pervasive developmental disorders. A review and this one Prevalence of autism-spectrum conditions: UK school-based population study.

Fwiw my ds' autism was caused by a witch putting a curse on him on an easyjet plane. She said she was a witch and could see and predict things.

Shortly after getting free refreshments for predicting the air stewardess liked travelling she announced that 10 month old ds had an aura around him that he was a crystal child, the cousin of the indigo children and has been sent to repair the world but would have communication issues and labelled as SN

well, at least you were forewarned, eh?

i love the crystal child woo-ery. it's hilarious.

that story reminds me of that gary larson cartoon 'dang, why do i always get to sit next to some weirdo'

how is he doing with repairing the world?

Well it would appear the world is in fact such a mess it has to be destroyed before any rebuilding can be done.

excellent. one assumes that ds is getting along famously with said task prior to reconstructon duties?

it's amazing how far one is prepared to stoop for a free packet of peanuts.

You know what though? Do you think people are 'scared' of people with autism?

For example, do you really think that banking crisis would have happened had people with autism been in charge of it? Do you think caring carrots would have a job? Do you think oppression and blame, low expectations and denial of an education is actually done deliberately through fear?

i think avoidance rather than fear. and ignorance. there may be tinges of fear thrown in (perhaps based on unpredictablility?) but i'm not sure it's the main factor. and the denial of education stuff is plain old lack of funding coupled with ignorance that it won't make much difference in a (limited) value for money context.

did anyone notice that the author of the article is also a 'Cohen' although a common last name, could they not be related?

Good point eandz.

Interesting story Gloria. the witch in our case also flew on a plane with us and it was shirtly after DS turned 1 and started walking.

She said DS would be a very hard work child, very unique with unique interests, let him be him, don't try to change him and he will be very famous one day, perhaps in sport. Well, she guessed it all, let's hope she was right about the last one :)

You had a plane witch too Blueshark?

Oh yes, sitting opposite us. DS had jus started walking and was exhausting us up and down the isle and dh and I took turns into following him the whole 3 h. And the she broke the news to me with a smile

Seeing how active DS was I'm sure most people on the plane ould have predicted the first few things