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I've just been seriously physically attacked by my ASD dd again.

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thornrose · 17/08/2011 15:05

My dd has just completely lost it out on the street. She has scratched, kicked and spat at me for almost 20 minutes before I was able to get her home in one piece. She also did this last Thursday but today was much worse.
We have a CAMHS appointment in October with Psychologist and Psychiatrist but we cannot wait that long.
Has anyone taken their child to hospital under these circumstances to see a psych and get some more "instant" help.

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AlfalfaMum · 17/08/2011 18:44

Sorry, I meant to say you could also contact NAS and see what they advise.

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thornrose · 17/08/2011 18:51

Alfa, CBT was great for dd's anxiety and she has retained a lot of the techniques and can use them herself. We haven't had any work specifically on anger though which is the logical next step.
Thanks Alys, good to here something positive for the future. I might give Social Services a call, I've heard people refer to support workers. I need to see what's out there.
All is calm now but who knows when it's going to happen again?

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thornrose · 17/08/2011 18:55

I'm a member of NAS Blush but have never actually used any of their services.

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lisad123 · 17/08/2011 23:15

I know what you mean about super human strength, dd2 is only 3.11years and goes great guns at me :(

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thornrose · 18/08/2011 11:14

Wow, lisa, my dd has only started attacking me physically in the last year or so. God knows how you cope when it happens at such a young age.
I was thinking last night, I react very differently when she attacks me outside of home, and she knows this!

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lisad123 · 18/08/2011 11:32

When she's at home it's fine, as she goes off and I wait for her to calm. Out and about she runs off so have to hold her Sad

SusanneLinder · 18/08/2011 16:39

www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/pages/MedicineOverview.aspx?medicine=Stressless%20tablets

I use these on my DD and they really help.If I know she is going to be in a situation that is going to upset her eg changes in routine like starting school etc, I give her a couple of these to run up.You can buy them in Holland and Barrett or over the net.Only ones that can be used from 8 years old, as most herbal tablets can't be used on under 18's.They really do work!

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thornrose · 18/08/2011 17:19

Thanks Susanne - I'm going to follow that up.

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queenoffairies · 18/08/2011 18:59

thornrose, your DD sounds very much like my DD - she is 14 and over the past year or so her violence towards me has really increasedSad Last weekend was the first time she assaulted me outside our home, and I am really worried for her futureSad

She does have a CAMHS appointment on the 1st September, but it is touch and go as to whether she will agree to go - she used to go weekly, but it was getting harder and harder to get her there, until the last time she completely lost it and I feared I would have to call the police.

I will also watch your thread (if that is ok), for tips and support on how to manage her agression, as so far nothing as worked. I wish you and your DD wellSmile

lliissaa · 18/08/2011 19:15

Hi I am new to mumsnet this is my first message. Phone camhs first thing in the morning and tell them they have got to help you. Only way hospital can help immediatly I think is if the child is sectioned that normally means phoning the police.

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thornrose · 18/08/2011 19:18

queen - feel free to watch, let's hope we can get some help! Does your dd also use abusive language? Yesterday during the "attack" she was shouting at passers by that I was a padeophile among a string of other horrendous insults Shock I almost wished someone else would've called the police to shock her into stopping.
I am the target of all her anger and rage, but also the person she needs more than anything in the world. It's so damned hard isn't it?

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thornrose · 18/08/2011 19:19

Hi lliissaa, I haven't done anything today but I am going to ring tomorrow, thanks.

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lliissaa · 18/08/2011 19:30

My son is 16 and when he flips he goes for weapons screams swear words at me and calls me the most horrible names.He also tells me he wishes I was dead I know it is not personnel but it hurts. He has Aspergers and adhd he is now on medication and this is helping.

queenoffairies · 18/08/2011 19:31

Thorn - no abusive language as such, just the "I fing hate you", and "i wish I was Fing dead" etc. All aimed at me, I really dont know what I would do if she involved anyone else, that must have been horrendous for youShock ANy other time, she is morified and mightily offended if she even hears a swear word!

With DD (ASD, dyspraxia and sensory processing disorder) it is all about anxiety. She gets so wound up over the smallest things, but feels unable to say anything at the time, so bottles it up and then explodes when she feels a bit safer at home. After her meltdown on Saturday, she came straight home and went under her duvet for two hours, and it was only yesterday I managed to get her to leave the house, if only for a walk down to the corner shop. She is entering Y10 in september, and has worried over this since starting secondary school - starting the GCSE years. I think it is going to be a tough couple of yearsSad

queenoffairies · 18/08/2011 19:33

Hi Lliissaa, I am starting to wonder if medication is the way forward for DDSad CAn I ask, was it via the GP or CAMHS please?

lliissaa · 18/08/2011 20:06

It was through Camhs they moved my son up to tier 3 because of his behaviour. He was referred to a place called Thorneywood to see a psychiatrist and she put him on medication as she could not do anything with him the way he was.

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thornrose · 18/08/2011 20:12

queen, our dd's sound similar she also has dyspraxia, I have held off from medication so far, but she is 12 next month and I can't see any other option. The anxiety we can just about manage but the aggression is just a step too far.
lliissaa, I'm so sorry, that must be awful, Aspergers is bad enough, I can't imagine combining that with ADHD. Well done for surviving this far.

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thornrose · 19/08/2011 11:15

Well, what a result. I just received the report from our last CAMHS visits and they confirmed we can see psychologist and psychiatrist in October.
However I have been offered a follow up appointment with the Social Worker on 31st August. This is great news, I'm so happy.

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 19/08/2011 11:23

That's good, thorny. Will you be able to last out that long? How often do you get the violent outbursts?

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thornrose · 19/08/2011 11:29

Well it varies. The 2 "outdoor" ones were out of the blue really and haven't happened since. For now I'm being very cautious about taking her out if there is any tension.
It's really hard because we're moving, again, weekend after next which is stressing me out a bit. I have lots of running around to do and have to keep leaving her with mum which is a pain.
She's booked in for 2 afternoon sessions at holiday scheme next week which will give me 6 hours to do stuff, I can't wait Grin

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 19/08/2011 11:45

That's good, I had visions of it being a regular thing. Hopefully the SW can give you some advice. They don't seem to be fantastic with SN, though, better with NT behavioural issues, I think.

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thornrose · 19/08/2011 11:52

I know what you mean, I'm not expecting much but when I tell him about the latest incidents I'm hoping he can get us an earlier appointment with psych people. October is a very long way away.

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 19/08/2011 12:00

Good luck. (That's not meant to sound sarcastic!) Hope the move goes as smoothly as possible. Do you think she's actually getting stressed about all the changes and taking it out on you? Would seem likely, I suppose. Anyway, I'm glad you're getting some support from here; it really helps me to know I'm not alone. Smile

queenoffairies · 19/08/2011 12:12

Thats so good about your appointment thornrose, ours is the day afterGrin

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thornrose · 19/08/2011 12:21

Ellen - she's always taken all her stress out on me and also seems to "absorb" my stress. I'm trying to act calmly but she is picking up tension.
The changes she has had in the last 18 months are pretty monumental!
queen - good luck to you, let's keep each other updated!

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