SoI was advised by the workers on my parenting course to put my son in time out for very bad things he does (like hitting), and time him there for 2 minutes (even though he's aged 4) but only start timing once he's sat down nicely.
So at which point do I start timing?
When he's finished trying to get up, screaming and hitting me? When he finally settles and just growls 'I'm not fuck off' repeatedly with random screaming bits, (which I'm she he can do for longer than I'm physically able to sit there for.
There's no chance he's going to sit there quietly ever, I've persisted for weeks now.
I ended up smacking his hand back, after he'd hit me for the twentieth time while I was sat there silently giving no eye contact, and it was acually really hurting me.
Smacking him back seemed the only way of making him stop.