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School 'feel sorry' for our crap TA

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appropriatelytrained · 17/06/2011 18:29

Many of you wonderful folks have helped and supported me with my trials and Tribunalations (!) recently and may remember my battle with the crap TA.

Yesterday, despite 3 visits from the S&LT who set targets about 'modelling' a message task 5x a week, and despite school being exposed for doing nothing (or pretending they'd been doing it but 'forgetting' to keep records), TA told DS on a message delivering task on his own. When he said he couldn't do it, she let him go with a friend but said 'you should be doing this yourself'. Shock

Seriously, she hadn't even be working on the f*ing target with him at all over the last five weeks and then lies and then starts telling him to do it himself.

Anyway, I had an appointment with the head today after I mentioned all my concerns to the senco.

Head is always very defensive about her staff even when they're clearly crap. So she 'feels sorry' for the TA for having to deal with such a 'complex' situation. This TA that she hired without qualification because she 'seemed sympathetic' is a cow and useless. She has lied about loads of things and doesn't do most of what is agreed when professionals come in.

Head was covering her arse as was class teacher who tried to pretend TA had gone with DS but then backed down and said he didn't know after trying to pretend she'd 'given DS a choice about how to do it'. This was because I told him that wasn't acceptable when the S&LT was telling her to model a task before sending him alone.

Head tried to suggest I was being very undermining to the crap TA and to the other TA who is superb. I had to say that was clearly untrue and I have a great relationship with the other TA whose praises I am always singing.

Anyway, I told her I blamed the 'system' not the individual and if the TA wsn't delivering, it was because she wasn't being trained, supported and directed properly. I told them they needed to access outside expertise. I wasn't blaming them for not knowing what to do but everyone else will blame them for not putting provision in place. They need to get with the programme. I think that sunk in a bit.

What gets me is that they still don't understand DS and his problems. It is the second time this week I have had to explain to staff that their 'perception' of him was irrelevant, that they have ample evidence of his needs and the fact that he is unlikely to communicate his difficulties so they shouldn't take it personally if they felt something went ok and I report back that it didn't/

Honestly, the child has had a statement for five months and they still don't get this. They are so f*ing precious it's untrue. Feel sorry for my son not a whingy incompetent TA.

I wish I could just walk from the place. But this bloody Tribunal makes it impossible.

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wasuup3000 · 17/06/2011 20:52

Yes I know!! It's all about them....

appropriatelytrained · 17/06/2011 21:18

Maybe we should have a statementing system for TAs! Or heads too? I could certainly list her social communication needs! Bless

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wasuup3000 · 17/06/2011 21:55

Indeed!

tryingtokeepintune · 17/06/2011 23:21

There should be a system where we can hold the school accountable for non-provision or indeed for any failure and I don't mean the governors. Something similar to the LGO, who last week told me that my problems seem to have come from the school and there is not much they can do about the school. They are, however, still investigating the LA (I hope).

They don't seem to realize that we would not be going to all this trouble unless it was serious. The whole system is stacked against the parents - it is difficult to find out what is happening in school etc. so before we make any complaint we have to make sure that we do our investigations thoroughly first etc. One parent told me that she was too frightened to complain about a teacher being rude to her because her ds would be with the teacher all next year...

tryingtokeepintune · 17/06/2011 23:26

Just - a box in the playground? That's horrible!

AT - yes, if they admitted that some provisions were not implemented or apologized etc, I think I would be able to accept it and try to move on and build on it. Instead, time and energy spent proving they lied and trying to get what our children need.

appropriatelytrained · 17/06/2011 23:58

What was the box about justa? How did they explain that away?

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Justunbelievable · 18/06/2011 08:13

The box was desgnated as a 'cool down' area where ds would stand and have 'time-out'.Secno and LSA had had a meeting that day to discuss 'strategies' but apparently a painted area was supposed to be used for all children not just ds Hmm. Somehow lsa (who had been in the job a week) obtained a spray can and took ds into playground to create 'his' area. It was painted blue for cool down and had ds's initial sprayed in it. HT states this was not for his use! Says she knew nothing about it even though she saw LSA walk by with spray can. We were furious as you can imagine but after our original complaint 3 and a half months ago she did not think to remove it and other dc's frequently mentioned ds's 'space'. When lsa was painting it another child asked if they could have a 'box' and was told 'no,because you're not a danger to other children'! This was of course refuted by lsa.

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 18/06/2011 11:08

Just, have they only just removed that box?!!! That's terrible.

appropriatelytrained · 18/06/2011 11:11

That is a shocking way to treat a child. Really appalling. They need some equality training

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 18/06/2011 11:17

Just, is your DS moving up to secondary in Sept? Really hope you get a better relationship with the SENCo there. TBH it couldn't be a worse experience than you've had with this school. Sad

Justunbelievable · 18/06/2011 11:25

Hi EJ. Yes ds is leaving that school in a few weeks thankfully. New Senco seems on the ball so we shall see. What's worse is that ds was left traumatised and needing counselling after the way he was treated at infiant school. Now this has happened at juniors we can only hope the next one is better - as you say things can't get much worse!
When we had our complaint meeting which was also to discuss ds's unnecessary exclusion (they lied about that) the Senco/Inclusion manager wasn't even there. We were told we should have requested her prescence! It just begagrs belief really. Ofsted are due soon - do you think they would be interested in this?

Justunbelievable · 18/06/2011 11:28

Also,ds had been threatened with exclusion several times by HT. For example when he was hiding because he was distressed about an incident in class she said " if you don't go back to class you know what will happen.....".

appropriatelytrained · 18/06/2011 11:29

Yes, yes, and yes. My friend is an Ofsted Insp and he says parents must feedback this stuff. They don't investigate but it gives them context

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tryingtokeepintune · 18/06/2011 11:53

Just - can't believe how badly your ds has been treated - actually I can - just sad to hear it.

Yes, to Ofsted but honestly, I know so many people who feedback and the schools just keep getting good/excellent reports (one-off incident, difficult parent etc.) Also might be worth sending it to Ofsted directly as I have heard of schools opening the envelopes from feedback etc. However, I suppose if we don't feedback to Ofsted, then we cannot complain.

Justunbelievable · 18/06/2011 13:19

I am a governor so it might make them take more notice perhaps!

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 18/06/2011 15:35

Sorry, been out at my DS's old Early Years SS fête (in the rain) doing the indoor bouncy castle. Do send feedback directly to Ofsted. Will they visit before your DS leaves, or do you have a younger child still there? Are there any other disgruntled parents who have had similarly shite experiences?

How is your DS's transition plan going for secondary?

Justunbelievable · 18/06/2011 15:46

Ofsted due to visit in September so ds will have left-no other dc's left there. I have heard that others are not happy with Senco and also another who wrote 2 letters of concern and received no response. Bullying is another issue as several parents have removed dc's because of lack of action by HT in tackling this.
With regard to secondary transition visits start this week so hopefully that will make ds happier.

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 18/06/2011 16:01

You won't get an ofsted parental feedback letter, then, I'm afraid. Not sure what governors get, can't remember back that far. Maybe try to persuade a few parents to feedback their negative experiences to Ofsted. Some won't want to rock the boat.

My DS is going to secondary in Sept, also. He's got a statement and the new school have been really good at arranging extra visits with his TA on top of the days that all pupils go. He's been twice for 1/2 an hour and an hour and took a camera to take photos, (mostly of the computer room TBH. Grin ) he's got 2 more with just him and 2 with other pupils, his TA has to accompany him on each.

appropriatelytrained · 18/06/2011 16:19

I think I should put my concerns in writing actually - just reading what you are saying.

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wasuup3000 · 19/06/2011 18:52

HMM got a letter yesterday working document in post with my wording suggestions and slight changes by LEA included in it on way....

wasuup3000 · 19/06/2011 18:58

Do put your concerns in writing as someone might listen eventually - you never know..

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