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Transition meeting for Reception - tips and advice please?

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farming4 · 10/05/2011 22:02

We have the transition meeting for ds at the end of May and I'm in the process of gathering as much info to take with me in order to highlight what I believe will be his challenges next year.

Long story short, ds has verbal dyspraxia and epilepsy (med controlled) He has approx 12 clear, retained words, but none which are school specific i.e ice, apple, mummum, ayax (Alex, db) woof woof. He uses Makaton and a communication book (for numbers and letters).

Coming to the meeting will be his pre-school SENCO, ms SENCO, Inclusion officer, SaLT, reception teacher and myself.

I have a copy of the SEN legislation, SaLT reports, HV developmental report, paed report and I have a reception TA jotting down some notes as to where she thinks he may struggle.

Basically I am asking for any hints or tips on what else I need to be armed with before the meeting. Has anyone experience of what these meetings are like or what I should be expecting.

I am fully aware that I am more than likely going to be requesting SA for ds before all is said and done but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment ( well at least until the start of June Grin)

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GoodDaysBadDays · 10/05/2011 23:01

We have our first transition meeting at the end of may too so am going to watch this for tips too Smile

But...

Why have you not applied for a statement yet??

We applied in November for ds so it would be ready for when he started. We have just received the provisional. From your post, I would imagine your ds will definitely need one. SA+ wont be anywhere near enough for him imo.

supermum98 · 10/05/2011 23:15

I agree with above post. Apply for a statement immediately. It may take some time to get one and frankly it is the only way that you can make sure that your ds gets what he needs. I'm afraid I would never trust an LEA and it will only get worse ie. funding esp. with NHS. You need to get advice on IPSEA re. what consitutes a good statement.

Do you have and Ed. Psych. if so I would involve them also?

farming4 · 10/05/2011 23:15

I think its cos we have had so much support in his pre-school (attached to ms school) and I guess I thought it would be the same when he moved up Blush. I was also told that because he was only behind in his expressive communication and that he was ahead of his development milestones in every other area he wouldn't be able to get a statement (I know I know I've been fobbed off Blush)

So will see what the meeting brings - this is also why I want to be fully prepared so that I can establish exactly what they believe SA+ will be able to do for him and what support they will give him - Inclusion officer so far has promised the earth..........we shall see......And if its nowhere near enough (which it won't be...) I will be hitting the SA route!

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farming4 · 10/05/2011 23:18

Sorry x-post. I asked the Inclusion officer for the ed psych to be involved but found out last week that "they" (whoever "they" are) have decided that he doesn't need them involved........can i get the ed psych involved myself or do I have to go through a "professional". Can't afford to go private.

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StarlightMcKenzie · 10/05/2011 23:23

Apply for a statutory assessment and they'll be there quick smart (EPs etc.).

If the inclusion offers the earth it doesn't mean you will get it. Your child's rights are not protected unless there is a statement.

Having said that, it IS possible to have good/appropriate provision without one. It happens. Just because provision isn't protected doesn't mean you won't get it.

Get everything promised in writing, then you have good evidence if/when it isn't received. You can show that your ds was assessed as needing something that the school, for whatever reason are unable to provide, which is a great start to a statement.

StarlightMcKenzie · 10/05/2011 23:28

And write to the inclusion person asking him/her who exactly 'they' is?

There is no 'they'. Get a name.

GoodDaysBadDays · 10/05/2011 23:39

Not wanting to harp on about the statement (but I will just once more, get your letter in tomorrow! You could then have final statement before Christmas)

So back to now. I know little about the specifics of verbal dyspraxia or epilepsy but from my experience (ds had global developmental delay with a s&l disorder and hypotonia)

Communication. Your ds uses Makaton (as does mine Smile) and you've said has salt input. He uses 12 clear words. So,

How will he communicate on a daily basis?

Are there any makaton trained staff? If so will they be available to ds throughout the day?

Will he be anxious if he cannot communicate because there is no one there who speaks 'his' language?

Who will use his communication book with him? If TA and teacher are working generally within class who can help your ds?
Does he have general anxieties that he may need support with?

A transition book might be useful - photos of various areas of school and key members of staff.

Those are some of the things I would be considering finding out about. Of course you may have already covered all those things as you are having support at pre school.

As supermum said, do you have an ed psych? I imagine you might have had some involvement to get support at pre school. Contact them tomorrow if you can. When If you are contacting someone about the statement and you have seen one before the SEN education dept might give you an email address if you beg / cry / lie. Or If you know the ed psych's name you could phone the dept and have a guess and ask them to confirm it being firstname.lastname @ name of county.gov.uk. They'll hopefully confirm or correct. Contact the ep and ask if they can attend the meeting too.

Don't be Blush about being fobbed off. I was for years with ds1. With ds3 I'm armed (and possibly dangerous if they try and fob me off again Grin)

GoodDaysBadDays · 10/05/2011 23:41

Ah sorry x post.

Agree with starlight (obviously, she is the master of all this!)

statementing is the way to get ep involvement

Good luck farming

AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/05/2011 08:56

farming,

You have already been given some great counsel and I hope you take heed.

This forthcoming meeting will likely promise much but will actually deliver very little.

SA plus is not legally binding unlike a statement so it can too easily fall down. The amount of support offfered on it can be extremely limited and there's not usually any one to one.

Do personally make the statement request today; these things can take six months plus to set up. If you're not sure what to write IPSEA's template letters are helpful www.ipsea.org.uk.

Triggles · 11/05/2011 10:29

I agree a statement is definitely a must! DS2's school is brilliant about supporting him, and even they insisted we get a statement for him. Not only does is set out what he needs, but it means that support on it must be provided. Our senco stated that the statement is also helpful for the school, because if higher ups (LEA I suppose) try to get the school to cut back his support for this or that, the school has the statement in place and can say "no, he is required to have this!"

Something to consider may be any visual aids prepared in the next month or so in order to allow him time to familiarise with them and possibly use them at home in order to make the transition to school easier (something familiar in the classroom). It's a good idea to make sure there are Makaton trained staff available.

Also I would suggest that you meet all the people that are working with him (staff and support), and meet with any that are doing any type of programmes with him (speech therapy, fizzy, etc) on a regular basis for updates and to find out what they will be working on with him just a bit ahead of time. We found that by doing this, these people seem to be much better about keeping us informed, and it allows us the opportunity to mirror some of the information at home as well. Home/school communication book is good thing to have to keep them aware of upcoming appointments, ongoing issues, as well as them jotting notes for you about progress and problems.

If he is on an IEP (which he should be), make sure there are regular reviews (ours are every 2 months), and that you attend each one if possible. Initially, school personnel at the IEP reviews were more "discussing in front of me" during the reviews, but now they actively discuss the information WITH me in the reviews as well as asking my opinion and what things I would like focus on as well.

We asked and received email addresses for those that come to the school to work with DS2 (senco, the ATS worker, the preschool worker, speech and language therapist) and requested that they email us prior to visiting DS2 at the school. He often has appointments that take him out of school, and this way if they are planning a visit when he may be gone due to an appointment, we can email them back and let them know. It has saved us hassles on a number of occasions. It also means we have an easy way to communicate with them to catch up with how he is doing or allow them to let us know things they'd like us to help him with at home. Also, I'd say 90% of the time, when they're popping in to visit DS2 at the school, they'll say in their email "if you'd like to meet at that time to discuss how he's doing, I'd be happy to meet with you"...to which I of course reply yes! We've also emailed the senco regularly to let her know where we're at with appointments and progress on various bits of paperwork that need to be organised. It's soooo much easier than trying to catch them on the phone, and it gives you everything in writing that you can print off and keep records of.

Because your son has epilepsy, I would make sure that they have a specific plan in place in case of a seizure. Is staff trained to recognise and deal appropriately with a seizure? Will students be given a very brief discussion that he has a medical problem and if he appears to be ill, they should let a teacher know right away (always helpful, especially on playground)? How do they handle notification to you of a seizure - at what level would they call paramedics to respond? This is something that definitely needs to be sorted prior to him attending, so that you know what their plan is and are comfortable that it is being handled sensibly and safely.

And always get copies of EVERYTHING!!!! (and let them know you want copies of everything! Grin)

Triggles · 11/05/2011 10:29

oh my... book form!! sooooo sorry!! Blush

farming4 · 11/05/2011 14:11

Thank you all for the replies and advice - I've been on the Ipsea website and will sit down and draft the letter re SA. I was originally going to see how his support panned out during his 1st term at "big school" then go for statementing if it was falling short but I agree that if I do it now it should be in place for Christmas instead of just starting then and not getting the support he needs until next summer. Thank you all again Smile

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GoodDaysBadDays · 11/05/2011 21:17

Good luck farming!

I got some fantastic advice here when going through both my sons' statements, it can be pretty daunting!

The best advice I had was to include absolutely everything about my ds, not just what I thought was relevant. Let them have a full picture of your ds. And don't try and fit it on the forms, they're tiny!

Let is know how you get on x

GoodDaysBadDays · 11/05/2011 21:19

Oh and good luck for September!

I got confirmation of ds start date today, scary and sad!

farming4 · 12/05/2011 20:58

Thanks all - quick update - had a call from the HT at the school ds will be going to, asking me to come in for a meeting as they (the school) want to get a statement in place for ds asap! The HT had spoken to pre-school about ds (his older brother and sister are already at school so ds is known to the teachers etc) and after discussing his problems they think the best thing to do is to go for SA! So meeting next thurs and we shall see!

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