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RockinSockBunnies · 21/01/2011 14:48

Following on from the other thread here about ABA and its merits, I'm interested in learning about how ABA could be used for DSS, who is 8 and has Asperger's. We're in the process of requesting a statement from the Local Authority and I'm wondering whether, in the statement, we could request ABA to be provided either at DSS's school, or at home?

Is ABA something one can argue for via a statement? I understand that Local Authorities are reluctant to use ABA. Is this the case?

How does one find a reputable ABA provider and measure success, especially since DSS is high-functioning?

I've come across the Autism Partnership website here - does anyone have any experience with them? Or other recommendations. Also, if we had to self-fund, what kind of price per hour are we looking at? Would a few hours of ABA a week be worth it if we couldn't afford more, or does it have to be all-or-nothing?

Sorry for the endless questions and thank you in advance.

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sickofsocalledexperts · 21/01/2011 15:31

I think any ABA is good, it doesn't have to be 40 hours a week or anything, like some zealots prescribe. I also know of some reputable tutors but depends what part of London. Costs can vary between £15 an hour (most junior) to £30 an hour (supervisor) to £90 an hour (consultant). It is hard to get it into statement unless you have already paid for it yourself and gathered evidence that it works for the child. If you want to PM me where you are, we could see if the tutors I know would be of any interest?

silverfrog · 21/01/2011 15:40

Hello Smile

my dd1 is 6, pretty severe ASD, and we have been using ABA with her for nearly 4 years now. she is at an ABA school fulltime.

so, your questions:

imo, I htink a few hours of ABA is better than none. it is more a mindset/technique/style/whatever you want to call it, so I find that I now parent in an ABA way. obviously dd1 gets mor eintenive. targetted ABA at school, but just the way we do things at home - it's ABA all the way.

DO NOT believe anyone who tells you it is all or nothing. we started out doing 12 hours a week with dd1 when she was 3 (minimally verbal, lots of stims - very withdrawn, etc). you do what you can do.

I don't have any experience of Autism PArtnership. I used Sean Rhodes as a consultant, and would thoroughly recommend him.

Price wise - it depends on who you go with, and what you do. eg, some providers set it all up, provide supervision, tutors, etc. this obviously comes at a price financially, but does alleviate a lot of the hassle of finding tutors etc. others, you woudl have a consultant who comes down maybe every couple of months ot oversee things, and then you find a tutor (gumtree, university student, local interested childcare worker) and you pay them the going rate - form a standard £8ish/hour untrained, right up to anything like £20/hour for a hghly experienced superviser-level (I owuld argue if you use someone at this level, you would ned less visits form a consultant, so it can be swings and roundabouts as to cost). COnsultants can cost in the region of £500/day - a full day working with you and your child, training up tutors, plannig out the next steps to take etc.

Re: finding a provider, ask around. see if you can find some families local to you, and observe their programmes. talk to a few providers, and see what they say in response to your questions. like any other area, there will be some you like, some you don't. try to sound out whether you can see yourself working closely with them - are they a good fit for what you want?

eg, I turned down working with 2 fullproviders as they wanted ot set up a fulltime programme only, and we wanted a part itme programme (both cost wise, but also just ot fit in with us as a family).

when you say you would want it on your ds' statement - as a home programme? in school? mixture of both?

LA are extremely reluctant ot fund ABA. you would have to set up, run, and prove worht of any programme befor ehtey will even consider funding it. you have to prove it is the only option for your ds. not the best option, but the only suitable option.

High-fnctioning wise, there is no reason why ABA will not work - it take swhatever targets your ds needs to work on, at whatever level, and works on them. but LA woudl seize on the high-functioning aspect as a reason t not fund, I suspect, and hide behind the fact that your ds is able to cope (in whatever way) in a MS setting (which I assume he is?)

RockinSockBunnies · 24/01/2011 11:04

Thank you for your help. The school is endeavouring to have DSS' statement underline the fact that they want him to have one-to-one support with someone who is experienced in dealing with the needs of an ASD child. Whether or not that will amount to ABA I don't know.

We've not gone down the ABA route so far, as we have joint custody of DSS and it's doubtful that his mother would implement anything during the time he spends with her, so it might be slightly ad hoc - again, is this a problem?

We'll definitely look into getting an ABA tutor for the next few months so that if there is an improvement, then the LA may have to take that into consideration.

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blueShark · 24/01/2011 11:48

Ad hoc is not a problem, any little helps!

My DS is in school full time and I do anything between 30-60 mins after school and double that at weekends so min 10 to max 15 hours per week and I still see results. I have an independent consultant that visits as per our request an writes down a programme with targets and the programme is delivered by the family, mostly me, my husband helps at weekends and of course the best tutor of all his younger sibling.

I am also in W London but consultants/tutors are generally happy to travel.

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