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If your child has ASD, do you believe it was caused by MMR?

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lisad123isasnuttyasaboxoffrogs · 14/01/2011 14:50

I still keep reading about this, especially in articles from USA.
I know it wasnt the cause of DDs because they have signs long before MMR jab. I am wondering though, but dont want this to end in a massive fight either.

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asdx2 · 16/01/2011 10:20

It was a complete loss of skills with dd, everything went speech, social and motor. That's what made the GP question Retts but I had a gut feeling it would be autism just by hearing experiences of other parents.
Paed thought it would be Retts tbh or another metabolic disorder but once all the tests came back clear he agreed we were looking at autism.
Dd only had two doses of Calpol because it made no difference to the noise and she didn't appear ill. She had never had it before because she was never ill and hasn't had it since because she doesn't like fruity sweet stuff so won't take medicine.
The early intervention "saved" dd, she is developmentally on age across the board, academically she is very bright her HT says he is excited by her potential because she progresses roughly double the expected pace and so he wonders where she will be when she leaves primary.
I think the early intervention gave her exceptional attention and problem solving skills and the ASD aids her memory so I think she has a good chance of a promising future. I like to think so anyway.

sneezecakesmum · 16/01/2011 12:18

Reading through these threads it is clear (as said) that there are many causes of autism, some as yet as unnown but certainly having an environmental element, including vaccination - maybe not the vaccine itself but that particular childs reaction.

asdx2 and pip's description of an extreme and near immediate response to vaccination or some other environmental factor (?infection) , particularly the high pitched squeal (cerebral irritation for sure) and the other symptoms are very interesting.

There is clearly a genetic link to a lot of ASD but other factors must play a part, is the research going into this I wonder?

Triggles · 16/01/2011 12:36

this is really quite interesting to read. DS2 was already displaying signs prior to MMR, and he had MMR delayed as well. No change after MMR. DS3 hasn't had his MMR yet, and we will most likely delay it further, until we have a better idea how his development is doing. We are being cautious, even though he is showing none of the signs that DS2 did at this age.

That being said, I really am not certain if the MMR is linked to it in general, but it never hurts to be cautious. I'm not swayed by the prior publicised research (Wakefield), as I believe there were some flaws in their research methods. However, I've never heard of this Calpol thing - interesting indeed. I will have to do some online digging and read a bit more on that. Thank you.

mumslife · 16/01/2011 23:08

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Madoldbird · 17/01/2011 09:31

Personally, absolutely not. The signs were there at birth, pretty much.

Madoldbird · 17/01/2011 09:32

Pressed "post" too soon.

Wanted to add that it is only looking back (DS3 is now 18m) that i realise the signs were there.

dietstartstmoz · 17/01/2011 10:02

Can I hijack this thread slightly DS2 has some ASD traits but no dx as yet, currently getting support from early years and we will prob go for stat assessment. He had single MMR at 12 mnths, but has now had his appt through for his pre-school booster. Not sure if we should go for the triple vaccine, but don't want to add to anymore concerns, should we go for single vac's WWYD?

lisad123isasnuttyasaboxoffrogs · 17/01/2011 10:06

TBH no one can tell you. I personally would do your research and weigh up how you feel about it.
We weighed the risk of making ASD worse vs getting measles.

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asdx2 · 17/01/2011 12:29

You could always request a blood test to check for immunity first. the majority are covered by the initial jabs so chances are he doesn't technically need the booster anyway.

NorthernSky · 17/01/2011 12:48

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dietstartstmoz · 17/01/2011 20:03

Northern sky could you explain a bot more?? Sorry, what do you mean by DS's immune system. He has moderate eczema, but bad flare ups and his hands are always very sore, and skin permanently dry, no matter what. He also had awful chickenpox- absolutely smothered in pox (so did DS1), he has asthma (mild), attends nursery so has frequent sniffles and coughs but nothing too bad, maybe one severe thing per yr, chest infection usually. I don't think he had any ASD symptoms before jabs, we have only have some concerns since he was 2.5 when his speech didn't come on, and he didn't start to engage with other children. Not sure if he even has ASD, but he certainly has traits, it is suspected and he is under the paed. Can anyone recommend any good websites Should I talk to my GP? Where would I get single jobs from? Thanks everyone, it seems to be something new everyday at the moment!, now jabs to worry about.

NorthernSky · 18/01/2011 17:22

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BagPuss71 · 19/01/2011 18:13

DS had MMR and had a severe reaction to it - ended up in hospital. Later diagnosed with ASD. Worried about giving DD MMR but did, no reaction and is NT. But don't think MMR caused ASD in DS.

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