I'm not liking all these threads on nt MN about AS

[Marne]

Today seems to be anti-Aspergers day on MN, threads claiming AS is not real (just poor parenting), and threads saying we should control our Aspies. Apparently we are pushy parents that are looking for a dx for our dc's who have behaviour problems caused by us .

It makes me sad that there is still such a poor awareness of ASD and that people still think its down to bad parenting.

Maybe i should just stick to the sn threads .

bonkers that would be too informed!

I would hazard a guess the neurodiversity movement hasn't helped with all the 'we're just quirky' stuff but they're entitled to their view (even if they don;t always share that back)

I went shopping, came back, went to check what had happened on that thread...and it was gone! Now whilst I understand it was probably upsetting to a lot of people - I feel threads like that should be left - to expose to the wider world the ignorance and blinkered viewpoints of some of the idiots on there. I liken it to allowing Nick Griffin on to Question Time....give these people a platform, and enough rope, and they'll hang themselves.

Well, I agree but to only an extent.

Years down the line, I know ASD is a bio disorder; throughout DX I was pretty certain it ws me being crap. I think a lot of aprents experience that and leaving a thread like that (which in fairness I did not see) does risk causing harm at a very vulnerable time.

People learning their child has any form of SN need to be wrapped in protective padding and given a lot of love and acceptance, not challenged about their parenting and accused.

And the real joke of course is that IME somewhat universally parents would PREFER it to be their parenting, becuase then we could change it.

I am the parent of a child with classic autism. Maybe because it's 10 years down the line, but I don't need to be wrapped in protective anything (although I do appreciate the sentiment), I want to respond to the people accusing me and challenging my parenting so that I can respond. And prove them wrong!

I underrstand that, and I have 2 myself- one with AS and one with sutism. I don;t need protection either but I remember when I did, and I think that's a time when many people end up on MN- often looking for confoirmation of their self blame.

Sorry- forgot to say I was santas LOL- confusing people again!

FWIW I have yet to meet anyone who denies that autistic ds3 has a disability, that's bloody obvious. It's AS ds1 we get the crap with, in terms of belief in Asperger's- although as ds1 is eleven now it IS better than it was.

Also wld be interested to know if it is regulars trolling under assumed name or random truckers

Do you think that's because as he gets older the differences between him and his peer group are becoming more pronounced? ds1 is 13 now, and although I've never before felt the need to say anything to complete strangers about it - I've realised that twice in the last week I've said "2blessed jr is autistic you see", because I felt he was possibly being judged. Whereas when he was younger, to the untrained eye, with a short interaction with him, it probably wasn't blindingly obvious that he was different

DS3 has pretty amrked language impairment- he's of the very voertly social type of ASD which means he is constantly tugging at people and over friendly (social issues, just the reverse of the streotype). Youd have to be pretty dim to miss his SN whilst he's pulling / talking at you though as he ages the fact it is ASD becomes more obvious- eye contact, worsening absences etc.

With ds1 who ahs AS, it;s the aggression that makes us tell people' I was really anstily confronted by a dad at school and his behaviour was a huge issue and it was important people knew it was a real diagnosed SN that was not (at teh time) being supported by education, rather than something we were condoning if that makes sense? I don;t know if we'd have told anyone without that factor.

I will look at that Down Syndrome thread when I get time. Already my heart is sinking....

If it's the one about abortiond, be aware when replying that someone on tehre had her pregnancy terminated (for very severe brain abnormalities) very recently indeed so it's a step-lightly thread.

I agree with the idea of not deleting threads that are problematic. I have worked hard on posting on threads in the past, given my posts a lot of thought and time, only to find the effing thing gone 10 minutes later!
Maybe MN could ban name changing?

I just had another brilliant idea! What about a separate section in Talk that is just for the troll/tricky threads?

Hmm Davros that might work- but woudln;t it become like some higher form of AIBU?

OTOH if all teh namechanging trolls went there (and MN know to whome I refer from my own personal opinions I have shared with them) it might free up MN-general for the nice people.