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This may seem like really daft questions...(school)

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pucca · 16/09/2010 13:52

Should school inform parents how many hrs 1:1 a child has on ESAP? (waiting for statement)

Should the parent be informed who the TA is?

When is a new IEP set up? and should the parent be given a copy? Or at least know what it says?

Thanks

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bigcar · 16/09/2010 14:02

No idea about the first. We're always told who dd3s TA will be.

IEP I believe they have 6 weeks from starting to write one. You should be asked to agree to it and sign at and then get a copy.

have you seen the SEN code of practice, it will tell you what school should ideally be doing.

wasuup3000 · 16/09/2010 14:20

In Lancs Bands a,b,c usually mean 10,12.5 and 15 hours. What Band did you get given?

pucca · 16/09/2010 14:24

Hey wasuup...He got band B, was told on phone band C but then in letter stated B.

I haven't been told anything, just wondering if that was normal.

I love it on here, you can ask anything and someone always answers. Smile

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pucca · 16/09/2010 14:25

Thanks Bigcar...I have read it before, but will give it another scour through later Wink.

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imahappycamper · 16/09/2010 14:28

All of them would be good practice but it doesn't mean it happens. IEPs should be reviewed termly and ideally parents should be involved, but sometimes they are reviewed less often or more often if problems arise. Once a Statement is issued you should have a Post Statement planning meeting.
It would make sense for you to know who the TA is so you can communicate.
You should have a copy of your child's IEP and be asked to contribute your views.

wasuup3000 · 17/09/2010 10:07

Theres a banding document on Lancashires website in the SEN bit.

AgnesDiPesto · 17/09/2010 10:59

Yes to all
Code of Practice talks about collaborative working with parents
Which would mean you know who is working with your child, for how long and get to input into the IEP. I would ask for a meeting before the IEP is set so you can contribute. If they refuse I would then pull out the COP and say that does not seem to be in the spirit of collaborative working. But ask nicely first and then see what happens.
One of the key issues for getting a statement is whether a child needs more help than on SAP so you need to know how much is being given now otherwise how can anyone decided whether more is needed.
We set up a home school book (DS is the only one to have one in his nursery) and we write stuff to and fro so you could ask to set this up and send it in each day for them to give feedback about his day eg who worked with child, what ate etc etc We also write in any new things or problems we have at home

pucca · 17/09/2010 12:40

Thanks you so much everyone, huge huge help Smile

I have emailed the head this....

Headteacher & senco,

From the conversations we have had, including the one yesterday I get the impression that you think I am neurotic and over-reacting but having had total care of ds for the last 4 years and of course he is my number one priority, I know what he is capable of and what dangers to look for. Obviously I only want the best for ds and to make sure he is safe, and with you being the Headteacher and the schools SENCO it involves you too.

This is a hard enough path to go down, with all the appointments and now all this will the SA and I feel I should be getting 100% from you but at the moment I feel like I am a nuisance and being demanding. I have tried to take a back seat when he was in pre-school but certain things were not being addressed.

It is hard enough when your child starts school when they don't have any difficulties, it is pure hell when your child has problems especially when you feel in the dark and your child won't/can't tell you about their day. I am worried as before him starting school he had total supervision from me everyday, and even with one on one there have been mishaps for example him running off out the door at the supermarket.

I asked teacher 1 and teacher 2 if they could record down if ds has a bowel movement in school because I have to fill in a bowel diary for his outreach nurse who visits the house, this is so his medication can be adjusted accordingly. teacher 2 said that ds hasn't had a bowel movement in school yet, twice he has come out of school with a dirty nappy, this of course could have been done just prior to him leaving.

I also asked if they could maybe jot down a couple of things he does in the school day that I can then talk to him about, this was done on Wednesday (which was great) but yesterday - no book. I suppose the other reason for this book is so we can communicate with each other without me having to discuss things in front of other parents at home time etc.

No-one at all mentioned him hitting other children to me, only my dd, I then mentioned it to teacher 1 who said the matter was in hand. It then came from my dd that he hit children again Wednesday (including biting and trying to strangle dd with her cardigan) and Thursday again, I have told dd to tell who ever is on break duty from now on. When the problem is also affected dd then it is a double whammy for me. She is already a bit out of sorts down to her best friend .... leaving. Can this please be watched as I don't want ds hurting anyone, and with his issues it is more likely than not it may carry on as he can be difficult at home. Prevention is better than cure, maybe for now some of his time awarded could be spent with someone watching or keeping an eye on him? The other fear I have is if he could escape through the hedge, which is probably unlikely to happen but this could have been an issue for dd & her friends last term (The great escape!) and I know that ds would not debate this in his own head, he would be off!.

I have no idea what so ever, who his TA is? Or what hours he has been allocated? I did write a note to teacher 1 asking this, I know they are busy with 29 other children coming in and out but surely this is why a TA is needed? To support children needing extra care and attention and would the TA not be my point of communication? This is difficult when I don't know who it is.

I just thought/think that a good relationship and good communication between school and home is important, to ensure that ds's needs are met and he is happy in school, and It would be good if we could work together and update each other regularly as obviously these things will always work better when teamwork comes into play. I know you have many other challenges within your job role but I am sure you can understand that getting ds everything he needs is my challenge.

Thankyou for your time and assistance in this matter.

I sent this, this morning...what do you think?

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pucca · 17/09/2010 12:49

The other thread is mine too, re hitting and punching other kids.

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pucca · 17/09/2010 22:56

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wasuup3000 · 18/09/2010 00:07

You will have to wait and see what they say.

woolytree · 18/09/2010 12:13

Can I copy and paste that letter to my DDs school! :)

Im gearing up to go into school with similar issues, diary not filled, concerns dismissed, no feedback, no 121, TA not interested....etc. Inclusion service were very helpfull, rang me yesterday to say they are going in to school to 'observe and inform'...they will come to meetings to point out DDs issues so I dont appear so neurotic!

Do you have an inclusion service?

pucca · 18/09/2010 12:59

Woolytree...Of course you can Smile

I will let you know what I get back Hmm

Not sure on the inclusion service, but then I am pretty clueless really as you all probably picked up on haha!

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woolytree · 20/09/2010 10:11

Hi Pucca...

Any word from school?
How did they take your letter?

:)

pucca · 21/09/2010 23:00

Hi Woolytree, Sorry only just seen your message.

Got a reply today....(Btw teacher 2 is permanently based in reception as a nursery nurse)

Dear Pucca,

I'm pleased to give you information on DS support. Teacher 2 is his TA and she'll be supporting him for around 7 hours a week. I'm also organising for a specialised teacher from the Lancashire Inclusion Service to support DS on a regular basis - this is where the bulk of his funding will be spent. These are teachers who specialise in various needs, in this case, speech and language and social interaction.

I've talked to the school nurse about your concerns re: toileting and she is eager to support DS. I'm just waiting for a date from her and we'll all have a meeting together.

Regards,

HT/Senco

Not sure what the hell to think really Hmm

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pucca · 22/09/2010 14:00

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bigcar · 22/09/2010 18:01

hi pucca Smile Doesn't answer most of your concerns does it?! Whilst it's good they are getting the school nurse in, surely she is just going to tell them what you have said Hmm I find it really annoying that they won't believe a parent Angry cos that's basically what it boils down to. Teacher 2 sounds a bit of a wet weekend from what you have said, think it may be a good idea to get onto the Lancashire Inclusion Service yourself and see what they say about the other issues you have with the school. Hopefully when ds gets his statement you'll have a lot more leverage when it comes to dealing with the school. Have you considered an alternative placement at all?

pucca · 22/09/2010 18:16

Hey Bigcar...Smile

I don't know what to think, feel like I am fighting a losing battle.

In his home/school diary teacher 2 is writing all sorts that doesn't sound like ds AT all, for example "Ds in circle time today said his name, age and what makes him happy" I am like WTF?!? If I ask him his age he says a different answer everytime, I asked him last night he said 2, nevermind anything else! He certainly wouldn't say wha5t makes him happy, I am sure they make it up you know.

They all make me feel like I am making his problems all up seriously. Sad

I feel like giving up to be honest, not sure about another placement. They make me feel like I am being over the top now. I just don't know what to do - I am going to be totally ready for the next meeting though.

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bigcar · 22/09/2010 18:32

ah, what makes me happy is a common circle time topic, they go round the circle and each child answers, he probably copied someone elses answer that he liked the sound of, that's what a lot of the dcs do. Probably did the same with his age, just said whatever the child next to him said Grin

now this is just my personal feeling but if a school made me feel I was imagining my childs issues I would be thinking I had to move my child away to somewhere that did take me seriously, especially when you will be getting a statement, sort of says in itself that you're not making it up. With the statement under way it might be worth looking round some other schools even just so you can say to yourself, yes where he is is the best place for ds. What are parent partnership like where you are, they can be a good source of support, depends how much in cahoots they are with the LEA!

pucca · 22/09/2010 19:06

The HT/Senco and the main teacher in reception are my problem.

I mean is it just me? She could have replied with something with a little feeling in after I wrote all that, like I understand bla bla bla.

My problem with looking at another school is trying to get both dc (dd is yr2) to different schools at the same time.

Thanks bc, I appreciate your help.

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bigcar · 22/09/2010 19:36

you may be eligible for transport, you can get it put on the statement if needs be, might be a bit of a battle but doable. No, the reply was totally unfeeling, she didn't even mention the majority of your concerns, it wouldn't have hurt to at least acknowledge your worries.

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