SALT report question and SA question...could someone explain plz???

[genieinabottle]

Hi, seen another thread about SALT assessment
and got DS's latest report (dating from July) back out only to realise there are a couple of things i need to know as i don't quite get it

The positive is that he has made progress during his time at the language unit he used to go to.
He progressed from the 1st to the 6th centile for understanding of language in just 9 months.
And he progressed from the 0.3th to the 1st percentile with content and use of language.

DS was 4.8 y when assessment was done (2 months ago), and all of his scores were at an age equivalent of between 3 and 3.6 y old.

Now what does 'core language ' means? I understand the above but not this one. He has delay here too and has gone from 2nd to 6th percentile.

This report is quite well detailled imo, and do you think it would be useful as evidence fro SA for statement?

Thanks.

Forgot to add DS has dx of asd and speech and lang.disorder too.

Yes, he has done well, but will it continue now that he won't be going to the language unit...
He made so very little progress before, then when he got a placement there things statred improving.

I guess i want to show the LEA that he does have delays across the whole range with language and will need extra support at school iyswim?

What i want from a statement is quantified hours of salt... for starter

Salt is 'supposed to' go in to school to see him twice termly and write up his IEP and explain targets to LSA who in turn is 'supposed to' do an unknown amount of salt with him.

I also think DS would benefit from having help with some table activities as atm he will not participate unless someone is on his case, help him stay on task and supervise him.

He did bugger all nothing while at MS nursery, only about 3 drawing in over 2 years!!
But at the unit, on a nearly 1:1 setting and very small group, he managed to be included and do many activities ,iyswim.

As things stand atm, we have been informed (verbally) that DS will have 'some' hours of 1:1 but when i asked when and how often? i was told well we have to see his needs fisrt... very vague imo.

no idea what core language means! try and search the archives, I've a feeling that 1st percentile triggers a certain level of support from SA, am sure that troublewithtalk has posted about that a year or two ago.

Thank you.

I think what i'm most worried about is that we'll fall back to how things were before he went to the unit. That his progress will stall and that his 'supposed' hours of 1:1 with LSA won't happen due to lack of funding, not enough time on LSA part,... well you know the usual reasons.

Well i have 2 IEPs from MS nursery whose targets stayed the same. And a salt assessment with showed much lower percentiles but that's it.

Yes i can recall many 'incidents' or occasions where DS was not included in activities at MS nursery for instance.
And i have two sets of the same pre-school "my special book" one from MS nursery which is near enough empty, due to the lack of joining in ... and one form from the unit which shows how well he can do when the right support is given. But these are not 'official' type documents iyswim.

There were the asd assessments like the Ados, and a non-verbal reasoning one done by Clin.psy but on that particular one he came up within the high range for average.

There is also the Bibic assessment but it highligh his sensory needs than anything else.

meant to write 'his sensory needs more than anything else'

Thank you for advice.

I'm hoping to receive the dx report sometime next week (with any luck) so will do what you have said re: the anecdotes alongside the two very different copies of my special book, and will sent copies of the two reports salt and dx one.

...maybe they will then agree to SA (fingers and toes crossed)

'Core Language' is a score obtained by using 4 subtests of the CELF-4 test, I think.

Genie- I would be v interested to know how you found the whole Bibic experience? I have the telephone interview scheduled for next week.
My DD1 (3.8) has an outline DX of verbal dyspraxia. we've also been told that she has some sensory processing issues but awaiting assessment from OT. She also has some gross and fine motor issues, but they don't worry me too much (yet). Not sure how much help Bibic will be now that they don't have SALT internally.

Well, our Bibic assessement was done at home, while they had fundings for outreach visits last year. We actually haven't been yet to the Bibic center.

The therapist was very thorough, did a sensory profile of DS, some interaction with him, did the GARS test and wrote up a personalised programme for us to do at home.
We also received a good accurate report.

Therapist listened and answered our many questions too

sorry but what is GARS??

It means Gilliam autism rating scale, it gives a percentage of the likeliness of asd.

DS had 95%. It did indicate high possibility of autism. Which he has since been dx with.