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Advice pls on soiling at school

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auntevil · 07/09/2010 13:49

I've come on SN because you all give good advice (DS1 SN) but looking for advice on NT DS2. He is in year 1 and came home soiled on Friday. Yesterday I was called just after lunch to go in and change him. DS2 has dietary probs - gastro team still working on it, although on IBS and dairy free diet. School are aware of this. Is this something I will be expected to do each time this happens - which on current form is everyday? I also have a DS3 at pre-school who I also have to be on 'poo duty'. I have a meeting with the teacher tomorrow and just wondered how i should approach this. The school is on the whole v.good as it has a disability base and adequate changing areas for big children.

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ouryve · 07/09/2010 13:57

As far as I am aware, it shouldn't be your job. I've only ever been called up once for a dirty nappy in the almost 4 years DS1 has been at school/nursery and that was because he was having an almighty tantrum and refusing to allow his assistant to change him. As it happened, DS2's LSA persuaded him to allow her to change him, so I wasn't needed then, either.

The school should be making reasonable accommodation for your kids' toileting needs. If they claim they don't have the facilities, there are grants available.

Ineed2 · 07/09/2010 13:59

I am out of date as haven't worked in school for about 8 years but when I did we weren't allowed to change soiled children we had to contact the parents. It was awful I hated it. However we had 1 child who soiled regularly due to emotional difficulties and we eventually convinced the HT to allow us to change him, he was supposed to clean himself and get changed with supervision but we did used to help him [only 7].
I hope things have changed but don't hold your breath, you may have a fight on your hands.
Sorry doom and gloom and as I said this was a while ago.

Ineed2 · 07/09/2010 14:01

Sorry.. Should have said we weren't allowed to change children who soiled their pants, we didn't have any in nappies.

ouryve · 07/09/2010 14:03

And I'll clarify that both of mine do wear nappies/pullups and have statements with full 1:1.

roundthebend4 · 07/09/2010 14:07

ask them for their guidelines on contineance in school or phone the Lea and ask them to send you a leaflet .

There not allowed to request parent to come in and change i asked as ds will sometimes soil himself and infact when in ms there were nt kids that had problems and Lsa would just help them change

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auntevil · 07/09/2010 14:13

I was told at the enuresis clinic that i should not put him in pull ups and have been battling for a year and a half now with soiled pants. I spoke to the school nurse over the summer as i had been reading posts about pull ups for over 4s. We had a situation over last term where he stopped eating at lunchtime so he would not soil - coming home - stuffing his face - exploding! He used to be put back in pull ups for after school to morning. i don't want him to go down that route again!

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justaboutawinegumoholic · 07/09/2010 14:15

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Ineed2 · 07/09/2010 14:19

At pre-school we always just change children if they are wet or soiled, no question, they bring spare clothes or we have a selection of spares to use. we would never dream of phoning a parent to change a child.

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auntevil · 07/09/2010 14:29

Last year his teacher changed him, which is why i wondered if it's an age thing - or that the new teacher is disinclined to do it?! Have checked the school and lea website. nothing on-line, i have to request the info. i will check in at the office at school pick-up. thx all.

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improvingslowly · 07/09/2010 17:55

have you tried cutting out gluten as well?

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auntevil · 07/09/2010 18:13

DS2 had an endoscopy and colonoscopy this year and his biopsies showed absolutely nothing except evidence that his digestive system is not working properly. Paediatrician has some 'ideas' but wanted to run it by the gastro team first. follow up appt in sept. hopefully we might find something out that will help.
Roundthebend4 - spoke to school and they can find nothing on the policy! they did go and speak to the senco who said of course he was aware of DS2's medical condition and was surprised i had been called in. when i collected him today the teacher said she had been very pro-active in checking and asking - but he had still soiled - at the end of the day, so didn't contact me. we have meeting together tomorrow.

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justaboutawinegumoholic · 07/09/2010 19:46

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auntevil · 07/09/2010 20:29

sadly - the name was given to me by a friend! Can't help but like it though!(wink)

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roundthebend4 · 07/09/2010 20:33

hmm i will look for the rules/law book i got sent which think applys to just about all but will have to be tomorrow

Im going out and have already had coupel large glasses of wsine Grin

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auntevil · 07/09/2010 20:40

i salute you roundthebend4 - 2 glasses of wine and i'd be knocked out, let alone going out! Have a good time.

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auntevil · 09/09/2010 17:30

Thank you all for the advice. Situation sorted. Had a good chat with teacher on Weds and she has put DS2 on the toileting routine that some of his classmates are on - the school has a disability base. today on collecting him he was clean - although he had been changed. He knows the 2 TAs that will escort/change him and he is quite happy with them. Seems it was a non communication from senco to teacher that his was a medical need. Doesn't it make you feel good when something gets sorted so quickly and without anything other than a chat!

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