If only life was that easy....

[Marne]

ok, i stepped over to NT mumsnet and started reading this, i think my dd's are well behaved given the fact that they have ASD but most of these things my dd's cant do, such as 'not get down from the table until everyone has finished' and 'not whinge or mummble'.

Sorry for moaning but it just made me feel a little .

OMG....they are describing my DD! :)

Im glad if she interrupts me too!!! Climbing on furniture....thats how she gets away from DS! Selfishness with toys.... Walking with food or drinks...lol. I couldnt read on.

I bet they have white carpets and clean patio doors too!

...But they dont have they joys of getting messy, making progress and MY DCs!!!!

My DS would struggle with most of them too (HFA) but just think what an easy-going, tolerant person it makes you

Im tempted. ....have to 'help' dh...its his turn to do bedtime. :)

Oooooooh

I think I may fail!

( wibble!)

I could go in with my list of rules for my NT dc's or I could go in with the very short direct but very very long list for ds2 :o
( no biting your brother even if you are 11 :))

I put "not get down from the table unil everyone has finished OR until someone tells him" - DS had probable ASD, and you will notice I also put that I had to allow wandering about whilst general eating, as he needs to do so usually. HOWEVER, on the rare occasion that we eat at a table (either ours or elsewhere) we NEED him to stay in his seat until he is allowed to leave as it may be dangerous not to do so. We do fairly frequently have to leave places becasue of this, but it's a good goal!

I couldn't get past the first few posts. They were describing DS2 to a T. No wonder he has neveer been invited over to anyones house after school.

5inthebed ... He can come round our house :)

I do asd dc's :) ... I'm good at asd :)

Dd2 is jumping on the sofa naked after chucking the contents of her potty across the floor .

Dd1 will sit at the table but dd2 can't sit still for 5 minutes.

They both say 'please and thankyou' when promted.

christ the OP of that thread (not Marne on this one, the ones in chat of course) would have a 'wonderful' time with my ds then!!!

...'climbing onto furniture' err..yes and jumps on them and walks back and forth too.

...'playing with the doors' yes, for agesss! and he has trapped DD's fingers in them sooo many times! (poor DD)

...'getting up and wandering with around with food', 'selfishness with toys'...etc also guilty !!!

Thank you TACC . You'll be regretting that when he has taken all your dvd's out of their boxes and raided your fridge.

DS2 is very polite, most of it though is echolalia but it makes him sound polite.

DD says excuse me, pardon, please and thankyou....but does not answer questions, especially from strangers.

Will sit at a table if asked/watched until her food is gone...or we provide/she demands more/pudding!

So what are our big no nos on SN MN?

Do not lick DSs bum when I am changing his nappy.

Do not wrap string cords around your/DSs limbs.

Do not chew your smallest toys...she has to chew something.

Ask properly if you want something....we recently practised this question...even if its a dramatic funny voice!

Do not lock/unlock doors.

I could go on...

Ha haaaa 5inthebed.. You won't get me on the fridge or the DVDs lol we are ds2 proof!

( I won't tell you how many DVDs / CDs ds2 has wrecked when he was younger .. By getting to them.. Taking them out of the boxes and rubbing them in circles on a wooden floor!! Seriously don't even ask!)

No need to fear the wooden floor, DS2 ill chew the dvds to doubly make sure they won't ever work again!

Rules for DS2? We're currenty trying the "Please ift the toilet seat when you wee" one, as I'm sick of sitting down to a puddle

My kids do almost all those things (save the fizzy pop) on a daily basis!

LOL at woolytree...
how about do not suck the tv remote or your feet or eat your school cardigan!!

5ITB.. I just read that out to dh.. And he snorted and fnarrrred :o

ds2 .. We are STILL doing will you lift the sat when you wee.. And hang on to your penis and aim please.. Although I have pretty much given up and I now automatically clean the seat befoe I use it. :(

Okay our big rule is:

do not blow your nose on.. The duvet... Your cuddle toy.. Your flee ( fleece blanket).. Or your sleeve!

Rules for my dd's:

• No sitting on the dog.
• No swearing.
• No licking peoples faces (without asking).
• No jumping up and down in wee (dd seems to like doing this).
• No pinching food off of daddys plate (because its too hot and might burn your lips).
• No opening the front door until mummy is ready.
• No drawing on the walls that daddy has just painted.
• No touching you bottom before mummy has wiped it.

No shit-smearing.

To be fair to DS2 he has just about managed the aiming at the toilet bowl, so I suppose lifting th toit seat might be a big jump for him.

Marne, we have a similar rule, no sniffing peoples heads without permission. DS2 will ask " Can I nnnngggg their head", usually it's a no as they are complete strangers.

Ds1:

Do not take all your clothes off because you are upset at something then hang upside down on the couch.

Do not demand to know what complete strangers are doing in the public conveniences.

Do not look under the doors of public conveniences to see how complete strangers are getting on.

If something goes slightly wrong it may be a little over the top to fling yourself about, scream loudly and sob.

Please could you get the balance between replying "hello" to someone without prompting and approaching total strangers to tell them your full name and address.

Do not strangle me on the train.

Do not strangle me in the park.

Do not strangle me at home.

Do not strangle me in the cafe.

In fact, can we just take it as read that you don't strangle me anywhere?

Ds2:

Do not throw things out of windows.

Do not seek out the keys to open the windows.

Do not get upset because someone you've never met before isn't sharing their lunch with you.

Do not lie down on the pavement, the train aisle or the bus aisle.

Stop climbing on your bookshelf.

These are by no means exhaustive.

Do not eat plants in the garden.
Do not kiss/lick strangers.
Do not push DS (1) over in the bath.
Do not eat food off the floor..esp other peoples old leftovers in restaurants.
Do not pick your bum/face.
Look in the direction you are walking.

This thread is more fun than the NT one!

Can't be arsed to go off here and check out this other thread but I get the picture and the above has given me a well needed laugh.. It's all so familiar.. Our list of no nos for our dd would be

No pulling the paint or wallpaper off the walls and eating it.

No drinking the muddy water out of the paddling pool.

No pulling and twisting your brothers penis in the bath.

No eating the gravel from next doors driveway.

No pulling your poo out of your nappy and lining the stools up on the tv cabinet.

No sticking your hands in the toilet.

No grabbing peoples hands, bags, faces, climbing on their laps etc when you don't know them.

No running away from the moment we set foot outside the house til we get home..

etc etc etc..

DD never sits still, never sits down at all really, she's on the move all the time.. Except when asleep. Which I wish she'd do more of!

Any kind of force or restraint to do something she doesn't want to do is met with the ear piercing screaming..

It's hard not to regard my NT older child as a completely saintly angel re his behaviour in comparison!

The 'NO NO rules' for DS in our house are:

*do not sit on/push/throw things at DD
*do not swing on the kitchen gate in order to slamm hard into the side of the fridge.
*try simply calling "mummy" if you are awake and need to use the toilet.
*if you have done a wee and are soaked through, try calling or failing that crying, just don't sit there in it until morning.
*if you want something, try speaking.... hand dragging or grunting noises isn't good enough anymore now that you can talk
*don't lay on the shopfloor in Tesco in order to look closely at people's trolleys wheels.

The list is longer but i'll stop now...