Red and yellow cards

[Ineed2]

Am introducing Dd3 to a system of red and yellow cards to try to help her understand when her behaviour is unacceptable. Telling her verbally is useless as she rarely responds and her behaviour has been escalating out of control recently. After speaking with the salt on friday it made me think that we need to use more visual stuff with her. Anyway I have used this system at school a long time ago and thought it might work. We are going to carry cards with us all the time so that we can use it when we are out/away. Just wondered if anyone else had tried it.
OH and I have talked about using yellow for a warning for all behaviours except aggression e.g. hitting, shoving, elbowing. which would go straight to red. Oh and the sanction for a red card would be 5 mins sitting on a chair reflecting. We decided on a chair as we thought it would be more practicle for when we are out and about.
What do you all think?

'Reflecting'??????? Is she likely to do that?

An NT child would probably sit on the chair stewing about what a horrible Mum they have.

My ASD son would not sit on the chair, but would have a melt down, and would not understand the link between consequences and behaviour (as his teacher stated in his school report )

No she won't but what I will probably do is either sit with her or leave some books for her. I don't really know why I put that, I actually don't do time out with Dd3 at all any more she gets too distressed but she will it on a chair at the table and read for 5 mins. We just don't call it time out.
[This was the only helpful thing the paed suggested to help us!!]
I wish someone had told me years ago not to do time out with asd children. a clinical psychologist recommended it for Dd1 16 years ago and blamed me when she either wet herself or threw every toy in the room at her window.
Dd3 used to go completly hysterical and it would take me an hour to calm her down so I stopped doing it. Dd2 who is as nt as they come excepts it with a shrug and slumps off to do her time without a flinch. Theres is such a difference between them.

They use it at school with ds1 at circle time. If he is good he sits on a green card if he starts being naughty he goes to a chair with a red card. Works really really well with him (he is 11, severely autistic, non-verbal). He now takes himself off to the red chair when he is being cheeky and sits there calmly apparently. I cant imagine that he would do 5 mins still though- that's a long time.

It seems to have taught him to recognise appropriate behaviour and to be able to self regulate and calm himself when sat on the red chair (I think he finds it quite funny).

Actually thinking about my supermarket problems currently I should maybe try and adapt it for out and about as well.

Yeah am open to suggestions, maybe 5 mins will be too long. I have made credit card sized cards with red on one side and yellow on the other. Also one to fit in my phone case when I haven't got my purse.[the laminators been on overtime today]. We are really struggling to find something that works. When we were away I felt like I was going to end up shouting at her but know that won't work as she is already shouting and we are trying to stop her not make her worse.
I have also done some which are just yellow to give to my niece who is visually impaired, we are supposed to be going away with them in a couple of weeks but Dd3 is a nightmare and keeps touching Dn's face etc. It really makes Dn jump and is horrible for her but am having real trouble getting Dd3 to understand that she must ask before she touches Dn. It's a real shame because Dn was really fond of Dd3 before she lost her sight but this problem is spoiling their relationship.

That does sound very difficult.

It is , but we are lucky that Dd3 learns very quickly so hopefully with the card system we will be able to nip undesirable behaviour in the bud before it begins to spiral. As far as Dn is concerned I hope that if she gives Dd3 a clear message by showing her a yellow card and saying why she has shown it, then the touching will not be such a problem and I will be on hand to issue the red card if needed.
We can only try it and see what happens, I am willing to try anything and Dd3 seemed quite open to the idea when we spoke to her about it. With the world cup not that long ago and playing football at school red and yellow cards are fresh in her mind so you never know.
I am slightly sceptical though as no behaviour stategy ever worked with Dd1 and so haven't even bothered to ry with Dd3. As she is getting bigger she is becoming more difficult and now I can't physically redirect her it is very challenging.
Was going to post a separate post asking what people do when there asd child gives them an outright "No" but will save it for another night.

Have you read Ten Things Every Child with Autism Wishes You Knew. I found that book quite helpful.....

I would be interested to know how you're getting on with this, Ineed. Also interesting to hear about saintly's son and the cards.
DS (4.4, dx of ASD) responds relatively well to rewards and threats (things like, if you don't do this, no television) when it comes to making him do stuff he doesn't necessarily want to do, but curbing bad behaviour is another thing.
He is learning to recognize when we are cross (from the tone of voice and the faces, I guess), and will say 'sorry' appropriately, but, like most children, thinks that saying sorry allows him to carry on with the same behaviour.
In really bad cases, I've given him time out (3 minutes when he was 3, 4 now he's 4) by simply putting him in his room and closing the door. He hates it, but I think he now 'gets' it as a punishment, except we need something less extreme. I only use time out when he's done 'red' things repeatedly, and after warning, in an attempt to make him understand the link between behaviour and punishment.
I have read 'Ten things' (like it); sometimes the time out for DS is actually time out for me, before I really lose my temper

I have ordered "ten things" so am looking forward to reading it.
sc13 I know what you mean about time out being for you to calm down. I used to smoke and when things were really tough would go in the garden for a cigarette. By the time I had finished the situation had usually defused. However I gave up smoking [ for everybodys benefit] but now sometimes I find it difficult to walk away.
We had no choice but to stop Time out for Dd3 as it was obviously damaging for her to be in such a state.
I am hopeful that the cards will work, but who knows.