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ADHD child- at wit's end with his behaviour

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BruachAbhann · 04/12/2025 21:26

I've a 7 year old son who has many traits of ADHD. The psychologist said he's also gifted and has handwriting issues and suggested we deal with that before we can ascertain if he has ADHD as they can cause similar problems.
His behaviour in school is completely different from at home. He gets exhausted and overwhelmed, can't keep up with the work (despite the fact that he's very clever), has emotional outbursts, behavioural problems.
We think we should take him out of school and try home schooling and getting to the bottom of what's wrong. His teachers have had enough. He can't even seem to remember if he misbehaves though and when prompted to remember always has a reason why he got annoyed. But he does understand when I explain to him that it's unacceptable.
I've spent the last week in tears as it's clear we can't go on like this. I'm just looking for any advice on whether you've a similar experience or whether ADHD meds work. It's so hard to get help. Everything is so slow to happen. Even to figure out what is wrong is taking ages and he is suffering ( as are we all!). We are doing an emotional regulation course with a psychologist for him.
Do you think I should take him out of school even though he wants to stay in? The school are a hair's breadth away from suspending him (he's had a first formal warning) and he's only 7! He's completely fine at home, he sometimes gets angry about things but we tell him to stop and he does. He never gets to a point of complete overwhelm or meltdown at home. He's always sorry and ashamed of himself if he misbehaves in school but in the moment he can't seem to see that he is overreacting to a situation.

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2x4greenbrick · 04/12/2025 21:46

Personally, I wouldn’t deregister and EHE. It is often easier, although not easy, to get support when you remain in the system. If you EHE, it is easier for professionals to sweep DC’s needs under the carpet.

Instead, I would request a meeting with the SENCO. What support is the school providing? What have they already tried? What outside agencies has the school approached?

Don’t worry if the school formally suspends, it will a) provide you with evidence of unmet needs, b) force the school to follow due process, c) limit the number of days the school can suspend for, d) allow you to challenge any suspension, and e) ensure DS receives alternative provision once he reaches the threshold. If you haven’t already, it is worth reading the suspension and exclusion guidance.

Request an EHCNA yourself. On their website, IPSEA has a model letter you can use.

Was the psychologist an ed psych? Has DS had OT and SALT assessments? I would get on the ADHD waiting list personally.

BruachAbhann · 04/12/2025 22:01

Thanks, Sorry I should have mentioned I'm in Ireland so the pathway to help might not be the same.
The school have tried reduced hours, giving movement breaks and have a Special education training teacher that takes him out for 2 meetings a day. Not sure how long these are and I've no idea what they actually do! The communication isn't great. I only learned last week when the suspension thing was talked about that he was having such difficulties. They've been a bit vague about his behavioural difficulties and If I'd known I could have addressed them earlier with him and let him know it was not on. For some reason I can get through to him but they can't.
The school has requested but been denied 1:1 help for him but say he really needs it. It seems strange that they acknowledge his needs are not being met but are punishing him because he can't cope in the environment. But I understand if his behaviour is affecting other people.
Psychologist was child psychologist and we also got a cognitive and academic assessment done with them.

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2x4greenbrick · 04/12/2025 22:16

I would look at an assessments by an educational psychologist, OT and SALT.

I would also request a meeting with the school. There are other things they could try.

Friend1010 · 04/12/2025 22:37

I would 100% recommend an Ed physc visit. They will observe behaviours and offer suggestions to help within the classroom. It's been gamechanging for us with a few adaptations!

Pryceosh1987 · 05/12/2025 00:11

I think its good to try and find something that will aid his composure. That is what needs the work.

IBelieveInUnicorns34 · 05/12/2025 08:08

If he's gifted (I presume this is based on the cognitive and academic assessment by psychologist), I'd consider if your child is feeling bored which, combined with handwriting difficulties and ND traits can be adding to his dysregulation? School are right to suggest he needs 1:1 or at the least a differentiated curriculum to meet his needs. Is a school with smaller classes an option? Or mixing tutoring and school on partvtime basis might be the best option?

BruachAbhann · 05/12/2025 08:28

IBelieveInUnicorns34 · 05/12/2025 08:08

If he's gifted (I presume this is based on the cognitive and academic assessment by psychologist), I'd consider if your child is feeling bored which, combined with handwriting difficulties and ND traits can be adding to his dysregulation? School are right to suggest he needs 1:1 or at the least a differentiated curriculum to meet his needs. Is a school with smaller classes an option? Or mixing tutoring and school on partvtime basis might be the best option?

Yes, it's based on the cognitive and academic assessment. He was gifted in maths and verbal reasoning but he got so fatigued by the handwriting on the next test that he scored average on the others. Psych said he would probably score much higher on those if he hadn't have gotten so tired.

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BruachAbhann · 05/12/2025 08:29

Smaller classes and 1:1 would definitely suit him. I'll have to see what else is available if he doesn't get the 1:1 in this school.

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BruachAbhann · 05/12/2025 08:30

Pryceosh1987 · 05/12/2025 00:11

I think its good to try and find something that will aid his composure. That is what needs the work.

We're doing an emotional regulation course. Any other suggestions? It's so hard.

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Ilka1985 · 05/12/2025 10:36

Would he find typing easier? Did you have an OT assessment about the handwriting issue? They might suggest things like pencil grips etc, but if this isn't enough I would look into typing and in the meantime also ask for school to help, e.g. instead of asking him to copy content from the board they should give him a print out, they could test him orally etc. Typing would long term be better for him than a 1:1 scribe, which would make him quite dependent.

cloudchaos · 06/12/2025 10:03

What act led to the suspension talk? I would push for typing. My son has an iPad as he has ADHD and his handwriting is similar. We did after school handwriting classes which did help a little
but being able to write large bits of text on an iPad has been a game changer for him. Is he allowed fidget toys as well and to get up whenever he wants and move about? School should be applying reasonable adjustments whether he has a diagnosis or not. I would ask for an urgent meeting with the SENCO to discuss what more they could be doing. If his chair is away from others or near the teacher maybe that might help too? It’s good he wants to stay in the school as that suggests he’s happy overall? My son wasn’t disruptive beyond occasional impulsive outbursts, or managed to hold a lot of it in until break time - but he is very silly and the “class clown”. Medication does help in that it calms him all over but I have mixed feelings about it. He can concentrate better and his academic side has improved but I wouldn’t medicate purely for the schools benefit. Only if you feel he would benefit and obviously you’d need a psychiatrist to dispense if you wanted to go that route. The school also had a sensory circuits club the kids can join in the morning which helped. Lots of running around before school to raise dopamine. Another thing you could try is looking for a private educational psychotherapist. I’ve not used them for my son but my other child has anxiety and it’s really helped her and I know it can help with emotional sides of adhd etc.

BruachAbhann · 06/12/2025 12:22

cloudchaos · 06/12/2025 10:03

What act led to the suspension talk? I would push for typing. My son has an iPad as he has ADHD and his handwriting is similar. We did after school handwriting classes which did help a little
but being able to write large bits of text on an iPad has been a game changer for him. Is he allowed fidget toys as well and to get up whenever he wants and move about? School should be applying reasonable adjustments whether he has a diagnosis or not. I would ask for an urgent meeting with the SENCO to discuss what more they could be doing. If his chair is away from others or near the teacher maybe that might help too? It’s good he wants to stay in the school as that suggests he’s happy overall? My son wasn’t disruptive beyond occasional impulsive outbursts, or managed to hold a lot of it in until break time - but he is very silly and the “class clown”. Medication does help in that it calms him all over but I have mixed feelings about it. He can concentrate better and his academic side has improved but I wouldn’t medicate purely for the schools benefit. Only if you feel he would benefit and obviously you’d need a psychiatrist to dispense if you wanted to go that route. The school also had a sensory circuits club the kids can join in the morning which helped. Lots of running around before school to raise dopamine. Another thing you could try is looking for a private educational psychotherapist. I’ve not used them for my son but my other child has anxiety and it’s really helped her and I know it can help with emotional sides of adhd etc.

Thanks cloudchaos. What led to his first warning was that one of the girls in his class was afraid to come to school because of his outbursts. The outbursts I'm referring to are when he's gone into flight or fight mode (once when he needed to get out of the classroom and went to the door to find it locked, he just panicked. It was a sub teacher who didn't realise he physically needed to get out at that moment. And also interrupting the class, acting as the class clown and saying some people were 'annoying' him. He's getting a lot better at seeing things from other people's perspectives now and we're working really hard with him on being kind and considerate. He normally is very empathetic and kind but for some reason when he's stressed he becomes solely focused on himself.

He seems to automatically slip into stress mode when he enters the classroom, I can see him tightening up and being on high alert.

The writing is a bit issue so we're going to find and OT to help and I'm going to do a writing course so I can see how to help him more. Ultimately I think some kind of technology will be great for him when he's older or as soon as he's allowed but I think it's important to develop his writing skills too.

I'm in two minds about medication too if it turns out to be an option. I can see the advantages and disadvantages. Does your son find it helpful for school? Does he feel he can manage school better when he's on it?
Good idea about exercise before school. We need to get him to bed earlier so he can get up earlier. At the moment he goes to sleep around 9.30 and gets up at 8 (we're very close to the school) but I'd love to have more time to chill and play and let him burn off energy.

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cloudchaos · 06/12/2025 13:02

I’m honestly not surprised he panicked when he found the door locked. I think most adults would get a fright in that situation, let alone a child who’s already running on fumes in a classroom environment! A fight/flight reaction is a human response, not “bad behaviour”, and it seems odd to me that a single incident like that (especially one caused by a substitute teacher not understanding his needs) would be used as evidence towards suspension. It doesn’t sound like a particularly supportive approach from the school. They seem to be reacting to behaviours rather than understanding what’s driving them.

And I do think as they get older, they naturally develop a bit more ability to self-soothe and regulate, but only if they’re actually given the tools to do that. Fidget toys, movement breaks, clear escape routes, predictable routines, typing instead of endless handwriting… those things aren’t “optional extras”. They’re what allow an ADHD child to participate without constantly tipping into overload.

To answer your question... yes, my son does find the medication helpful for school. He’s calmer, more able to hold a thought long enough to get it onto a page, and his exam scores have gone up by about 30%. But I do have mixed feelings. He’s less excitable about the things he loves, for example he used to be full of joy riding his pony, and now he sort of plods along a bit more flat, even though he says he still wants to ride. It’s like the highs aren’t as high, in the same way the lows aren’t as low. Hard to describe, but it’s definitely noticeable. He’s on Medikinet XL. I try to give him a break in summer, but that means slowly ramping up the dose again each September.

One thing I’d flag is exactly what you described, the “not remembering” if he misbehaved. That is completely normal for ADHD. A lot of the time they genuinely don’t realise they’re not doing what’s been asked, because their body is just doing its own thing. Some teachers interpret stretching or spinning or not sitting exactly in a circle as “misbehaviour”, and then he’s being told off for something he didn’t even register he was doing. That level of constant correction can absolutely hammer their self-esteem, and that was one of my biggest reasons for eventually trying medication.

There are real positives to ADHD like creativity, hyperfocus, emotional intensity, humour. My fear is always that school knocks those out of them by constantly treating their way of being as a problem. The traditional school model just isn’t built with ADHD in mind. It's basically sitting still for long periods, heavy handwriting demands, no movement, minimal sensory support, and very little flexibility. There’s nowhere else in life where you’re expected to sit motionless and absorb boring instructions for hours on end.

On home ed, just my personal view, but I wouldn’t. School, ideally, teaches them how to navigate people, friendships, conflict, group expectations, not just academics. And if he likes the school socially, that’s a really great start. If it’s the school struggling with him rather than the other way around, then really they should be adapting. A single nervous classmate shouldn’t automatically trump his entire positive experience, especially when the incident wasn’t targeted at her and was a normal stress reaction caused by the school locking him in and not understanding his needs.

On the handwriting, yes absolutely look at OT, and also at dysgraphia. It’s not that they “can’t write”, it’s that writing is physically painful and the cognitive load is huge. They have to think of the idea, hold it in their head, plan the sentence, spell it, and physically produce the letters, all while battling ADHD working memory issues. Typing reduces one part of that burden. We also found playing with putty is helpful for hand strength, and getting him to talk through what he wants to write before putting pen to paper - this made a noticeable difference.

It’s not easy, and you’re doing everything right by actually trying to understand him rather than punish him. He sounds like a lovely boy who genuinely wants to do well, so try not to feel too disheartened by the school, I know it's hard, but it sounds like you might need to educate them a little about what he needs so he can be the best version of himself.

BruachAbhann · 09/12/2025 12:16

Thanks so much cloudchaos , that's a really informative post. Yeah, although he finds school extremely challenging he actually wants to stay in school, which is good. * *
I really have to find an OT. It seems impossible to find a decent one anywhere but the search continues. I think we've turned a corner with the school, in a good way. The principal had a chat with our psychologist (who very kindly offered to phone and talk to her to explain how are son struggles) and they are much more amenable to helping him and recognise that he is trying his best. Thanks for your post, there's a lot to think about there. The medication part scares me so we'll see how we go but we'll do whatever is best for him.

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2x4greenbrick · 09/12/2025 13:52

For OT, have you looked at these? I know someone in Ireland who has used them successfully.

BruachAbhann · 10/12/2025 18:13

2x4greenbrick · 09/12/2025 13:52

For OT, have you looked at these? I know someone in Ireland who has used them successfully.

Thanks, I've seen that website but I'll check it out properly.

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