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Non achievers?

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PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 12:27

Do some schools just write off kids as non achievers and leave them to it? My son is 13 at secondary school but he doesn’t do any learning and isn’t given any. He is allowed to pay on a computer all day he can do whatever he likes doesn’t matter if he watched YouTube all day they don’t care, I feel like he is just there for attendance, someone told me once kids are written off as non achievers the school don’t give a sh*t about them. Is this true? I don’t know how he is allowed to sit there all day doing nothing if he was at home and wasn’t doing any learning I’d be forced to send him to school yet it’s ok for him to do nothing all day at school. (They don’t give him any learning just sit him at a computer)

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PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 12:40

And that should be “non achievers” as this isn’t my words it’s what someone said to me when I questioned why this is happening

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flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 15:37

Only a very poor school writes off any pupil.

Have you spoken to the SENCO? Does DS have an EHCP? Why isn’t he in lessons? What support has the school tried? What professionals are involved?

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 16:05

He was taken out of lessons after I complained about bullying he had already moved class twice due to it so he is now in something called calm club which is like an in between place for students with Sen, he has a ehcp.

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flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 16:16

The school removing DS from lessons isn’t a solution to bullying. Request a meeting with the SENCO &/or HOY about that. The school needs to deal with the bullying rather than remove DS.

If DS has an EHCP, it sounds like you need an early review of the EHCP.

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 16:22

I don’t want him in the class with those kids but I do not see why they aren’t giving him learning, he is happy in calm club it’s the lack of learning that’s bothering me

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flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 16:26

Unless the EHCP details, specifies and quantifies education outside the classroom (does it?), the school probably doesn’t have the resources to provide that.

Have you considered moving placement?

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 16:37

oh I see no it doesn’t, he was only recently awarded the ehcp. I named another school but they finalised with his current school.

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flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 17:20

Have you appealed the EHCP?

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 17:21

No and it is too late now I was hoping with the ehcp they would be forced to step up now but nothing so far.

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Thegladstonebag · 26/09/2025 17:43

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 17:21

No and it is too late now I was hoping with the ehcp they would be forced to step up now but nothing so far.

You need to request an early review of the EHCP, as soon as possible.

flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 17:48

The support provided via the EHCP will depend on what is detailed, specified and quantified in F of the EHCP. You will need to look at F. Is that provision being provided?

If you want to appeal but your right of appeal has lapsed, you could try asking SENDIST for leave to appeal out of time. Although you said the EHCP was recent, so how recent is recent?

You could request an early review.

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 18:21

It was 30th of July so they are not going to do an early review now

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flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 18:28

If it was finalised on the 30th July, you can still appeal. Just. You would need to act quick.

Although sometimes LAs do agree early reviews that quick.

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 26/09/2025 19:18

Thanks I was told it was 8 weeks? Which has just gone

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flawlessflipper · 26/09/2025 20:56

You have 2 months from the date of the decision letter or 1 month from the date of the mediation certificate, whichever is later.

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 27/09/2025 23:15

Sorry to keep asking but I have just looked and it says I need a mediation certificate but I only have 3 days left and it says it will be 3 working days before I get the certificate so am I better off just appealing the placement only and skipping mediation to get my appeal in on time

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flawlessflipper · 28/09/2025 11:32

Request the mediation certificate before the 2 months. That will be OK. Once you have the certificate, you will then have a month from the date of the certificate to submit to SENDIST.

I wouldn’t only appeal I. The placement named in I is the logical conclusion of B&F. B+F=I. If you only appeal I, there is a higher risk your preferred placement won’t be named. It also sounds like B&F need improving, anyway.

PepsiPepsiPepsiPepsi · 28/09/2025 12:10

The Sen case worker told me she only named the school because it was the summer holidays and the other school was closed 😑 she didn’t even consult with them. I’ve applied for the mediation certificate thanks for your help.

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