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Can't get child home

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Bitstuck1 · 01/04/2025 16:34

A random one that has me perplexed, someone may have been in a similar situation and found a solution. I think I have tried everything I can think of.
5 year old, ASD, probable ADHD, high demand avoidance, high non compliant personality.
When I used to do school pickups he would always want to run onto the reception play park even though they are not allowed and not want to come off. Then we got into a routine of going out the gates to the tuff tray for play, then would eventually make our way home, playing chase, etc to keep him interested, it quite often involves a change of direction, any direction that he picks even the opposite way. Sometimes if something dysregulated him he would run back to school and play in the yard again until he decided it was time to leave again, even after everyone had gone home.
A couple of month ago, it started every night. he came out of school, would play with others, then we played on the way home, then he would go back to school in a huff, me chasing after him trying to stop him. Then it can take me another 30 minutes to get him to leave.
We play chase, bad guy - police officer, monsters - aliens, music to dance to, I tell him daddys home,theres ice cream waiting, the pets are waiting...ive tried so many things but he knows he will get those things half an hour later so the reward isnt big enough. Odd times something will work, but not the next night! Sometimes he is running erratically around as he doesnt want to leave, into the car park etc, me chasing him and if I get hold of him for safety, he hits me or just falls to the floor. I can't make him leave.
I have started picking him up 15 minutes earlier, it worked for the first few days.
Now its back to, lets have play time then the crowds come and the children come out, so I am no further forward.

Tonight I was trying to get him to leave before parents came but he was playing with a younger child picking their sibling up (which wouldnt be a problem if he left after) but a teacher then came over and said I bet you cant chase mammy all the way home after we had been stuck there awhile, he said he could so I said well show me. That was it we were racing off, super sonic boom, camouflage gear, smoke screens, all imaginative play, we got a good distance nearer home, thought we had it in the bag. Then he stopped and complained I hadn't let him catch me soon enough. So he turned around, I started saying well come and catch me etc but he ran back all the way to school, then started playing again, back to square one, everyone is leaving. I said I havent met that teacher (near the exit) can you introduce me, so he took me over, thought I had it again, but then he ran back to climb on a wall again in the middle of the playground. He finally decided he wanted to leave and we got home eventually, again playing games.

This is happening every night now, back and forth, different scenario every night, but mostly play, won't leave, or play, leave and goes back or we end up going on a trek all over to get home. I try everything in my head I can think of to get him to decide he wants to leave. I'm sick of staying in school for 30 minutes, looking like a fool infront of everyone , bargaining with him :-) sometimes getting hit. Then them seeing me leave only to run back past them 10 minutes later, we look slightly crazy lol. And when he decides he wants to leave, can just run out at speed, me squeezing through people to catch him as theres the car park there, he can just run across it once hes decided to go.
I'm clueless on it, he definitely won't wear reins or anything.
I don't lose my temper with him or push him or rush him, even though it might be cold, raining, i might need to get the tea on or I might have just had a really busy day and want to get home.
Someone may have been stuck in this dilemma once :-)

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StrivingForSleep · 01/04/2025 16:50

Can DS leave school via an entrance where other parents aren’t waiting and where there aren’t toys? Would leaving school after everyone else be helpful? Or even earlier? Can you go in the car? If you are eligible, would transport help the transition? Have you tried SN reins or an SN buggy/wheelchair if DS is putting himself at risk?

Bitstuck1 · 01/04/2025 17:30

Thank you, all exits lead to the same front entrances, the current toy is a brick wall so hard to get away from distractions, when its literally anything. After everyone going may well help, but they like to get the outside doors locked for security and I think he might get distressed if everyone has left then be more annoyed I wasnt there to pick him up, but definitely a consideration. My husband just suggested the car and his tablet. We live 5 minutes walk away max, and I was trying to avoid the car as its then taking him into a busy car park when we live so close. I will try that tomorrow and see what happens although I fear it might not work the next night as he knows he will get into it eventually. I will try the car, then maybe try an even earlier pick up.
He would fight me to the death if I tried reins or a buggy, refuses even his hand held as it restricts him, he just screams. Thankfully he doesn't know how to stick his fingers up at me yet, because I can guarantee thats the thought process that is going on in his head during these times lol.
I was also wondering what the reasoning is behind it, so I could understand more, maybe the solution is in school before he even comes out. Why would he not want to go home, to toys, tablet, tele, ice cream etc. He loves home but then refuses to leave school. Just don't understand it. I would like to solve the issue if possible. We have a parents evening in a few week so that might be helpful.

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StrivingForSleep · 01/04/2025 18:19

Trying the car short term might help you break the cycle.

It might not be DS doesn’t want to come home. It might be difficulties transitioning from school to home.

Bitstuck1 · 01/04/2025 19:31

Yes, until he gets bored and wants to go home playing games again, then keep swapping between the two as needed. That sounds good.
There's also a proper play park nearby, just thinking now it's warmer I could do that 1 day a week aswell.
And transitioning, yes,I forgot about that one. There's so much to spot and remember!

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OhCrumbsWhereNow · 01/04/2025 21:10

We had something similar-ish with DD when she was a similar age.

(She's DME - ADHD and dyslexia).

The advice from the Ed Psych was to buy a gazillion things from Poundland etc and wrap them up like a lucky dip. If she complied with a request then she got something from the lucky dip bag.

It worked reasonably well for a couple of weeks which help break various behaviour habits. Probably cost me a tenner as I'd buy multipack things and split them up. She wasn't that interested in the contents, but liked the lucky dip concept.

It's exhausting - it will stop, and hopefully the replacement will be less stressful. Not sure it ever gets easy.

Needlenardlenoo · 01/04/2025 21:32

Could he sit on a bike? DD is older but DH has taken to collecting her on a tandem when she's being difficult about walking. Or a fancy scooter.

Needlenardlenoo · 01/04/2025 21:33

Oh and don't apologise,,, the daft things we've done to keep AuDHD child on the level - other parents have no idea!!!

Bitstuck1 · 02/04/2025 08:05

Last time I took his bike in, he was screaming and got so angry when anyone passed him and started winning.... in the race no one else was in. Then kept pulling into people, they would laugh and go around him so he would cut them off again. He wanted to cause a traffic jam with strangers and when I was stopping him doing it, he started hitting me! You just couldn't make the behaviour up could you lol. :-) Theres been one day we walked half way home hand in hand talking about his day, I was thinking Wow so this is what normal parenting is like, a bliss dream, i felt so chilled, could of cried. It was only because he had stolen a little gem from school and was making a quiet getaway :- D

He has asked me a number of times when I have picked him up where his present is, I told him you dont just get presents every day for the sake of it. But maybe you do lol. I do have some bits and pieces put away for next Xmas, and a book delivery coming today, I can use as presents instead of just giving them.
I think I am going to do 2 days car and tablet, one day park then 2 days saying ive got you a present at home, hopefully that will work and not too mixed up. But then it will get his interest but he wont get too bored of the same thing happening for more than 2 days in a row. I can atleast take it from there if I need to adjust it but it should be better than the situation now.

Thanks all, that helped put my confused brain in order !!

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Needlenardlenoo · 02/04/2025 10:24

OK, fill your clothing with little gems and let him "steal" them?!

Needlenardlenoo · 02/04/2025 10:25

Actually would school let you get him 10 mins early - he feels special, less of an audience?

Bitstuck1 · 02/04/2025 13:35

Yes!!! And we will look at the jewels on the walk home :-)

They let him out early but he's cottoned on to waiting, it's just like extra play time for him now lol

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