Is this 'inclusion'?

[deeeja]

My ds2 is five years old and attends the local primary school.He has as and is on school action. There are two boys at the school who have statements, and they are basically put in a room, apart from the other children, alone, with a specialist lsa. They are not together, they are in individual rooms. They are not mixing with the other children, and are definately not socialising. I know one of the boys speaks in two word sentences and is in reception, he used to play with my ds. These rooms are known as 'the cage', amongst the teaching staff.
I thought the whole point of inclusion, was to mix with nt children and get a good chance to learn social behaviour.
Is this how inclusion works?
I am not feeling too good about this, and won't be sending my ds3 who has autism there anyway, but feel sad for these two boys and the other children.

It's how inclusion happened at ds1's mainstream school (until they got pissed off with him taking a room out of circulation). He also wasn't allowed on school trips, or into assembly and didn't take part in school plays.

He is far more included in the community since switching to special school.

'the cage'???? Not surprised, it's so sad.

Every autism mum I talk to with children in mainstream say it's a miracle if it works. DS1 due to start reception in september, so I am dusting off the old DDA in preparation. sigh

It isn't inclusion, it is money saving at the cost of the child

It sounds horrible.

My two boys (ASD) are included in absolutely everything at their m/s school. They go on school trips, are given roles in school plays, and aren't sent off to separate rooms. To me inclusion should mean more than just being in the same school building as NT children. If they're not being included then they should be given the opportunity to go elsewhere.

Thats not inclusion. Inclusion means that all children have acces to all the curriculem.

Are you saying they spend the WHOLE day there??

Or just some parts of lessons? This would be normal in our school.

My son who has a statement is taught in the library with three other "problem" children. He is taught by two assistants, one of which told him that there was 200 grams in a kilogram. I hate it, he hates it. Will look for other school tomorrow.

That used to happen with ds at his old school Its not inclusion. My Mum (a SENCO) refers to that sort of thing as internal exclusion.

That's really sad.

As a (parent) governor with responsibility for Inclusion, I can tell you that is NOT how inclusion should be. If Ofsted came knocking they would come down on the school like a ton of bricks. It's hard to see how their actions follow any part of the Every Child Matters guidelines.

You have every right to see the school's inclusion policy (might be lots of separate ones - SEN, Equal Opps, Race Relations, Gender Equality, G&T etc), and from that you can work out exactly what they should be doing. The only thing I can think of is that these kids are removed because of possible Health and Safety issues with the other children?

Oh God, its so worrying. Our son starts mainstream school in September and has a full statement. He is moderately deaf and has severe speech and language delay.

I find this just so sad!

It did happen to him once though in a private montessori pre school. I was asked if I could not bring him in for the nativity as he wouldn't be able to say anything and they were worried about the other parents.

I was so upset and needless to say he never went back!

In my son's school they get round the "inclusion" bit by having them in the class for the introduction of the lesson. He didn't go in the class at all today but the teacher came to see them in the library. I'm so sad. He's a lovely little boy at home and apparently turns into a disruptive child at school. I don't know waht to do.

By the way, he's not violent at at all just very noisy and disruptive in his own little asperger way.