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ASD child secondary school isolation

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FoilSandwich · 28/11/2023 07:14

My child is autistic, no EHCP currently. Struggles to cope in school environment, issues with school refusal for several years, currently in a severely reduced timetable and spends almost all time in the inclusion area because he is unable to cope going into actual lessons.

Yesterday he swore at a teacher - this is not ok and I know that it's not ok. He was very distressed at the time but that still doesn't make it ok.

School have emailed last night to say he needs to spend his limited time in school today in isolation because of this. I know that he needs to be made to understand that no matter what you cannot swear at teachers. I also know that he is almost certainly going to refuse to go into school today, and this is very likely to escalate into more prolonged refusal. He will almost certainly not be able to cope with sitting in the isolation room for 2.5hrs.

Does anyone have any advice?

To be clear - I fully accept that he cannot swear at teachers and I am not looking to excuse this. I just want to avoid a consequence that will exacerbate his already quite serious issues with going into school.

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PassageDEnfer · 28/11/2023 08:27

Ask for a meeting with the SENCO and Behaviour lead before he returns. Say it is to discuss reasonable adjustments to the school behaviour policy. Explain if this is applied unadjusted it may constitute discrimination arising from a disability under ther Equality Act. Further explain that isolation is likely to result in psychological harm (see views of the British Psychologial Society) and should be particularly avoided in DC's circumstances. Explain the approach to incidents for DC needs to be restorative rather than punitive, in recognition of their cognitive and sensory differences and associated difficulties.

If they refuse, ask for a meeting with the Head and Special Needs Governor and SSENDIAS rep. Good luck Flowers

PassageDEnfer · 28/11/2023 08:56

Extract from: Consultation on Revised Behaviour in Schools Guidance
and Suspension and Permanent Exclusion Guidance: Response from the British Psychological Society, 2022.

The BPS is opposed to the use of isolation for a number of reasons.
Isolation as a form of internal exclusion is inconsistent with the
UNCRC (Tillson & Oxley, 2021). There are no limits on the number of
days children can spend in isolation which in practice often leads to
extended periods of time away from access to qualified teaching and
peers, and with no clear rationale for the use of such an
‘intervention’.

We note that in the Youth Justice system children are
not allowed to spend more than three hours in isolation. We question
why there are no limits at all on such a practice in schools.
In psychological terms “extrinsic controls [compliance driven
sanctions such as isolation] may negatively influence students’ sense
of belonging and school affect (L. H. Anderman & Anderman, 2003;
L. H. Anderman & Freeman,2004; Roeser, Midgley, & Urdan, 1996,
cited in Mansfield, 2007).

"Belonging is an essential aspect of
psychological functioning. Schools offer unique opportunities to
improve belonging for school-aged children” (Allen, Kern,
VellaBrodrick, Hattie, & Waters, 2018). Sense of belonging could be
defined as the feeling that a person is connected to and matters to
others in an organisation. There is a body of research (Cornwall,
2015; Dyson, 2018; EEF, 2019; Riley, Coates& Allen, 2020) which
suggests that a sense of belonging and feeling safe has been linked
with a number of positive outcomes for children and young people
including; increased student motivation, increased staff well-being,
motivation and retention, reductions in student absenteeism, positive
social outcomes (e.g. health and well-being), improved academic
achievement and a sense of empowerment ( a belief that children
can make a difference).

On the other hand, young people feeling that they don’t belong in
school is linked with higher level of exclusion. For example, children
from disadvantaged communities are twice as likely as their more
advantaged peers to feel they don’t belong and four times more likely
to be excluded (Riley, Coates & Allen, 2020). Literature has identified
various factors that influence school belonging including academic
motivation, emotional stability, personal characteristics, parent
support, peer support, teacher support, gender, race and ethnicity,
extracurricular activities and environmental/school safety (Allen et al.,
2018). However, teacher support and positive personal
characteristics were the strongest predictors of school belonging.

As noted above there are clear ethical and moral reasons to end the
practice of isolation. In addition there is no research evidence of
which we are aware to suggest that it is an effective practice and a
growing body of evidence to suggest that it exacerbates rather than
ameliorates the difficulties of children more likely to be placed in
isolation...

https://cms.bps.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-06/Consultation%20Response%20-%20Revised%20Behaviour%20in%20Schools%20Guidance%20and%20Suspension%20and%20Permanent%20Exclusion%20Guidance.pdf

BlueBrick · 28/11/2023 12:10

Too late for today, but looking forward DS clearly isn’t coping at school.

Has an EHCNA been requested? If not, request an EHCNA. If an EHCNA has been requested, where are you in the process? Is the LA sticking to the timescales? In the meantime, if DS isn’t able to attend school full time (and it doesn’t sound like he can) because of his SEN/MH the LA has a duty to ensure he receives a suitable, full-time education.

Why is DS on a reduced timetable? Part time timetables should be short term, aimed at reintegration. After that DS should be in school full time or alternative provision should be made as well as part time school or instead of school. And part time timetables shouldn’t be used to manage behaviour.

FoilSandwich · 28/11/2023 13:46

Thanks both for your replies.

Current situation today is that dc flatly denies swearing, though admits to speaking rudely to teacher. He has predictably refused to go in today and says he will never go in again because school is so hard and he tries so and it gets punished so what's the point. This is actually only the second time he has received a specific punishment, but he feels like he is being told off a lot of the time.

He is on a part time timetable because it's all he can cope with and we have been working on the assumption that something is better than nothing, however he barely ever goes to an actual lesson and rarely if ever does work in the inclusion unit (not because they don't try to get him to, he just won't)

I applied for EHC assessment in primary and it was refused 3 times (school didn't really support it), now he's in Y7 and SENDCO says he clearly needs an EHCP so they are beginning the process which is great - new application has not yet gone in but SENDCO says they are working on it.

He's basically getting no actual education at all at the moment. He started the year attending most lessons but very quickly stopped because he couldn't cope and stopped going in at all so the focus has been on trying to help him feel more comfortable in the school environment without the pressure of an expectation to complete schoolwork.

I really don't know what to do for the best. School isn't currently working for him but home ed isnt an option for various reasons, and meanwhile he is slipping further and further behind and now we look like being back to full refusal.

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BlueBrick · 28/11/2023 13:59

It is more likely to be can’t do work rather than won’t. I suspect you already know that, but when talking to the school or LA it is important to use can’t rather than won’t otherwise many latch on to won’t and see it as a choice DC are making. When it is anything but a choice.

It doesn’t sound like DS can cope with school even part time, but either way the LA should be providing alternative provision part or all of the time to ensure he receives a suitable, full-time education. You are right not to deregister and EHE.

Unless the SENCO is going to submit the EHCNA request this week, I would submit it yourself. On their website, IPSEA has a model letter you can use. Appeal if the LA refuse to assess or issue.

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