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Can't cope with ADHD Stepchild

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Katbum · 23/11/2023 14:51

I hope it is ok to rant here and ask for help. My SD is 9 and has ADHD diagnosis. She lived with us for a year as her mum couldn't cope and is now back with her mum because her behaviour escalated with the emotion of being rejected (in her eyes) by her mum. She stays with us for half the week and her mum the other half. Her behaviour is awful and seemingly worse since diagnosis. She won't follw a single request, command or instruction, she throws tantrums when she doesn't get her way, talks incessently (she will literally get home from school and sit on the sofa for hours just rattling on with no pause, even if no one is listening/responding), doesn't seem to care about consequences, jerks about smashing things. What's very difficult at the moment is I have a 8 month old baby who she won't leave alone, she picks her up, swings her round and jerks her about - it is not vindicive but it is very difficult to manage as she doesn't respond to being told not to do something. I am quiet patient and don't shout or lose my temper, but my husband has less patience and they end up in screaming matches, with the baby crying and everyone sick from stress. I'm terrified of the teenage years as she is very needy and beautiful and so vulnerable on top of her behavioural issues.

Her mother doesn't want to do medication so we are using behaviour management techniques, such as breaking down tasks into simple instructions, enforcing consequences for bad behaviour and sticking to a routine. It is not having much impact. It is hard as I obviously don't get a say in the medication/strategies due to not being legal parent. I'm sure the period of being away from mum has not helped her sense of security and feeling loved.

I am at the end of my tether and just want to leave my husband, take my baby and set up somewhere peaceful that I don't have to deal with this. I am the breadwinner and have started to resent all the money and time and opportunities I and my daughter are losing/missing by being in this marriage. I daydream that he leaves me and have even been instigating arguments recently in the hope he will get fed up and break the marriage. Although we have a good relationship other than this issue, it dominates everything and makes our home miserable. Her mother said it is the same in their house - the days she is not there are blissful and everything shifts on her return. I know this must be awful for the child, but I don't know what to do at the moment, and am worried about the effects on my daughter and my own mental health. If anyone has advice of where to go or strategies I can use to make things bearable, I'll be really greatful.

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fedupallthisrubbish · 24/11/2023 15:59

She isn’t a dog - do command. Be reasonable with her. Some children can’t deal with authority.

Personally give her lots of love and be her best buddy. Maybe nail painting watch a film with snacks. Baking. Lots of support and love.

The child is very upset and confused. Who would want to live in a screaming house 🤪 she can’t cope maybe more understanding position from the adults.

Maybe sport after school to burn her energy. Learn what her passion is try to help her.

Her bad behaviour in your eyes is saying she is struggling….. maybe can she help fold the babies clothes / make her a painting for her wall / take the baby with you out for a walk - include her more in life.

Good luck but she is crying for attention and doesn’t know how to communicate your job as adults to help her

good luck

Katbum · 24/11/2023 17:59

I do get your sentiment but this is so laughable. We tired baking - she will fling dough around, fight for the spoon and shove handfuls if dough in her mouth, nail
polish goes flying or else she won’t wait for it to dry and it ends up over clothes/fabrics etc. You can’t be the ‘best friend’ of a little girl who can’t sit down for more than 10 mins and is into something (poring expensive toiletries over the bathroom floor etc) every time back is turned. This really isn’t a case of ‘be nicer’ it’s a case of a child with extreme needs and behavioural issues that we cannot control.

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Kodiaka · 27/11/2023 22:22

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time. I can understand your concern for your baby and for your own mental health and wellbeing.

You say that you manage to stay calm with SD, so I wonder if your husband realises that you are at your breaking point? Can you have a frank conversation and let him know how you're feeling?

Is SD getting any support at school? Or are there any local resources that can provide support to her, or to you?

I don't know a lot about medicating adhd but anecdotally I've heard that it can often make a big difference. Is your husband willing and in any position to negotiate this with the mother, perhaps agree to a trial period to see if meds can help?

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/11/2023 22:42

I have a 9 year old with ADHD. The scenario you are describing is absolutely nightmarish to read- your nerves must be truly shot to pieces. This cannot continue.

Reading your post, I can only imagine how unsettling it must be for your SD to be effectively moving house twice a week, this is an insane arrangement if there is to be any expectation of calm from her and safety for your baby. Could you possibly explore two week or monthly chunks switching between households instead? Consistency really does support calm with ADHD.

What methods are you all using to burn off excess energy? Are movement breaks incorporated within school? Sensory diet followed at all at home?

Wall pressure pushes/ deep pressure into the shoulders / short sharp repeated messages in a calm tone and voice, "now and next" explanations/ sensory aids and toys can also be helpful. These things all may sound small but can really support better behaviour, responses, following instructions, general household calm etc.

Do you have any extra room that could be used as a quiet space for SD maybe to help with initiating self regulation?

The thing that really leapt out at me from your post is that SD's DM has not trialled medication. Surely if your DH and your household have a 50/50 arrangement in place there is a discussion to be had. I was severely opposed initially but once we had exhausted all other options and trialled some meds, within just a few weeks I realised actually it was the kindest thing to do for not only my child, but our entire household who now just cope better aside from the odd (but far easier to predict) negative behaviours. Perhaps your DH could open up the chat on this? Not all children, but many really do see some brilliantly positive changes with meds, it just makes life so much less overwhelming for them and enables them to participate joyfully as opposed to the whirlwind you are describing.

Finally, is there any existing ADHD Outreach support in place from your local authority? Many offer home support strategies which would be helpful if both households can mirror each other in terms of approaches.

Also check out Yvonne Bold who is a great source of information and support for challenging behaviours.

There is a book called the Explosive Child which helps parents better understand the challenges of ADHD and offers great strategies for behaviours.

https://www.amazon.com/Explosive-Child-Sixth-Understanding-Chronically/dp/0063092468/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RD230XL4UKZV&keywords=the+explosive+child&qid=1701124911&sprefix=the+explosive+child%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-1

I really hope you can find some solutions together very soon.

https://www.amazon.com/Explosive-Child-Sixth-Understanding-Chronically/dp/0063092468/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RD230XL4UKZV&keywords=the%20explosive%20child&qid=1701124911&sprefix=the%20explosive%20child%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-1&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-special-educational-needs-4949139-cant-cope-with-adhd-stepchild

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/11/2023 22:44

Apologies I failed to add this link to Yvonne Bold's page: https://www.newboldhope.com/

Home

https://www.newboldhope.com/

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/11/2023 22:53

@Katbum There are also a few movement aids that can be quite cheaply purchased that you could try out at home to help with focus and regulating your SD to avoid what sounds very much like hyperactive responses from some very overwhelming situations. If you would like a list I can add some here if you think they might be helpful?

Katbum · 28/11/2023 08:13

Thank you so much this is really helpful. Yes please to the movement aids!

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eardefender · 28/11/2023 12:09

op my oldest daughter is similar, i don't leave her alone with my younger daughter. I agree with a poster who said moving twice a week is a disaster. I also think that medication is very much needed here. This child will have self esteem at rock bottom she cant control her behaviour. The resulting trauma for the family is traumatising all of you and there is an 8 month old baby growing up in all of this. You must at least try medication. If she is slightly calmer then this would be a game changer and stop the family break up. It has been for us, it has also been a gamechanger for my DD self esteem she can think now as we are not constantly recovering from the latest awful episode. She also needs therapy weekly for the long term which i hope she is getting, this level of smearing is a trauma response.

BlackSwanEvent · 28/11/2023 16:11

I have a 10yo with ADHD. It is very hard work but some things are effective

  • The Barnardos book "the parenting puzzle" has some really good strategies to manage behaviours
  • Lots of movement breaks (I tell him to go and run around the garden as fast as possible and come back in)
  • Careful diet (as little processed food as poss. No sugary drinks)
  • Zero screen time (no gaming) and restricted TV
  • We have to ask him to stop talking and let others have a chance! Almost like a rota...
DoubleShotEspresso · 28/11/2023 20:52

@Katbum Here is a list of a few things many families find very helpful in managing ADHD at home and supporting their child with routines, regulation etc. If there is anything else you think might be helpful, feel free to message me.

Sensory/movement aids for home:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/URBNFit-Balance-Board-Increase-Flexibility/dp/B01I5E2H4Y/ref=sxin_17_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.431c6c06-e77e-44d9-a42c-721ab4612e9e%3Aamzn1.sym.431c6c06-e77e-44d9-a42c-721ab4612e9e&cv_ct_cx=wobble+board+kids&keywords=wobble+board+kids&pd_rd_i=B01I5E2H4Y&pd_rd_r=27ab8c14-97f7-41d4-8292-0a3639ef7775&pd_rd_w=ELbe7&pd_rd_wg=0o8Nt&pf_rd_p=431c6c06-e77e-44d9-a42c-721ab4612e9e&pf_rd_r=D0TVCBN2AA5559B1XMG9&qid=1701203707&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-1-ad3222ed-9545-4dc8-8dd8-6b2cb5278509-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CH38MZLL/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?pd_rd_i=B0CH38MZLL&pd_rd_w=LtpF4&content-id=amzn1.sym.cd628910-29ca-4d4a-be4a-b7f7fb17d784&pf_rd_p=cd628910-29ca-4d4a-be4a-b7f7fb17d784&pf_rd_r=0NWC12P3G9466ZEHCRTW&pd_rd_wg=uB7wI&pd_rd_r=3431191f-ed11-431f-9c2f-df77846907e1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DumanAsen-Exercise-Pilates-Fitness-37-5inch/dp/B086VJHM1V/ref=sr_1_35?crid=131V7XOVZUUL5&keywords=yoga+ball+chair&qid=1701203860&sprefix=yoga+ball+chair%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-35

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NUNETH-Ergonomic-Balance-Posture-Exercise/dp/B0CG9PB8JX/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2ZZ0BN7YFG6QL&keywords=yoga+ball+chairs+for+the+office&qid=1701203923&sprefix=yoga+ball+chair%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-16&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.23648568-4ba5-49f2-9aa6-31ae75f1e9cd

https://www.amazon.co.uk/UoQo-Stretchy-Awareness-Self-Claming-114-137CM/dp/B0BR8QQ45J/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3T5TOD6C9MAUE&keywords=adhd+kids+movement+aids&qid=1701204000&sprefix=adhd+kids+movement+aids%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-9

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GFFTYX-Spinning-Training-Carousel-Non-Slip/dp/B0C6KN7KB3/ref=sr_1_57_sspa?crid=3T5TOD6C9MAUE&keywords=adhd+kids+movement+aids&qid=1701204156&sprefix=adhd+kids+movement+aids%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-57-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.23648568-4ba5-49f2-9aa6-31ae75f1e9cd&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1

Books:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thriving-ADHD-Workbook-Kids-Self-Regulate/dp/B08GB81GFW/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1701204000&sr=8-24

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1786852365/?encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&aaxitk=ead0ac67a7da223b4195a21e7d09628e&hsa_cr_id=9888789780602&qid=1701204248&sr=1-1-dc1129fb-c8d4-4aec-832b-0226c0abeddd&ref=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_title&pd_rd_w=TxqYY&content-id=amzn1.sym.7f1cbbd2-fdf7-4044-bc96-f3654999c0b1%3Aamzn1.sym.7f1cbbd2-fdf7-4044-bc96-f3654999c0b1&pf_rd_p=7f1cbbd2-fdf7-4044-bc96-f3654999c0b1&pf_rd_r=9JMAZTBA7FCWK5JW8E9N&pd_rd_wg=wlVIU&pd_rd_r=6ce4bb8a-f5bc-4155-a196-1e0a3b6ddde2

https://www.amazon.co.uk/When-Feel-Angry-Understanding-Managing/dp/1800076908/ref=pd_bxgy_d_sccl_2/261-8292672-5262622?pd_rd_w=g1xo7&content-id=amzn1.sym.40f919ed-e530-4b1a-8d7e-39de6587208d&pf_rd_p=40f919ed-e530-4b1a-8d7e-39de6587208d&pf_rd_r=X940QCE9VMJVMFFJ9BHZ&pd_rd_wg=lyC1K&pd_rd_r=dc915dc6-d265-4965-b5b1-54884afee53e&pd_rd_i=1800076908&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Feelings-Me-Understanding-Emotions/dp/1800073380/ref=pd_bxgy_d_sccl_1/261-8292672-5262622?pd_rd_w=UEgl6&content-id=amzn1.sym.40f919ed-e530-4b1a-8d7e-39de6587208d&pf_rd_p=40f919ed-e530-4b1a-8d7e-39de6587208d&pf_rd_r=AGD4VXSP19RKVBYKHR2Z&pd_rd_wg=4elX2&pd_rd_r=82e050e5-6918-4e4b-88a3-ac0f01fccdad&pd_rd_i=1800073380&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B7QC5HF4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0B7QC5HF4&pd_rd_w=cR3rt&content-id=amzn1.sym.67430c1d-696a-45e1-be6b-972213775cc6&pf_rd_p=67430c1d-696a-45e1-be6b-972213775cc6&pf_rd_r=5JZCJA294MN3ESA6VR6B&pd_rd_wg=aW9Wp&pd_rd_r=c43d73dd-4aad-4210-a40a-827809dd6d17&s=books&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwy

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Defusing-Explosive-Behavior-Children-ADHD/dp/1959641026/ref=pd_sbs_sccl_3_8/261-8292672-5262622?pd_rd_w=ANDNJ&content-id=amzn1.sym.5c3c619b-7b5a-4be3-aee4-0dd0e2967f57&pf_rd_p=5c3c619b-7b5a-4be3-aee4-0dd0e2967f57&pf_rd_r=QJHSTWQMTCJF2G61NT54&pd_rd_wg=rLE8J&pd_rd_r=c56c1b1e-d6ac-4e10-92d0-d5f36d535388&pd_rd_i=1959641026&psc=1
Visual supports:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/development-strategies-Create-Visual-Aids/dp/B0BGM6QCMG/ref=sr_1_31?crid=3T5TOD6C9MAUE&keywords=adhd+kids+movement+aids&qid=1701204000&sprefix=adhd+kids+movement+aids%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-31

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Visual-Timetable-Children-Routine-Preschool/dp/B0C33CRBT3/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2HJ3KA2MEPXG0&keywords=adhd+visuals&qid=1701204460&sprefix=adhd+viau%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Happy-Learners-Communication-Emotions-Feelings/dp/B07PFFS3SB/ref=sr_1_51?crid=2HJ3KA2MEPXG0&keywords=adhd+visuals&qid=1701204460&sprefix=adhd+viau%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-51

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1786852365/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&aaxitk=ead0ac67a7da223b4195a21e7d09628e&hsa_cr_id=9888789780602&qid=1701204248&sr=1-1-dc1129fb-c8d4-4aec-832b-0226c0abeddd&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_title&pd_rd_w=TxqYY&content-id=amzn1.sym.7f1cbbd2-fdf7-4044-bc96-f3654999c0b1%3Aamzn1.sym.7f1cbbd2-fdf7-4044-bc96-f3654999c0b1&pf_rd_p=7f1cbbd2-fdf7-4044-bc96-f3654999c0b1&pf_rd_r=9JMAZTBA7FCWK5JW8E9N&pd_rd_wg=wlVIU&pd_rd_r=6ce4bb8a-f5bc-4155-a196-1e0a3b6ddde2&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-special-educational-needs-4949139-cant-cope-with-adhd-stepchild

Katbum · 29/11/2023 15:30

Thank you.

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