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Birthday issues - rejects presents

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pleasebekindnotpreachy · 08/09/2023 22:15

I initially posted this on the Parenting page but withdrew it as I was very upset at several responders choosing to tell me it was my 'fault', 'poor parenting', that I 'have no backbone' and my children are suffering as a result.

Luckily, some other responders were super supportive with great tips and one suggested I post here so fingers tentatively crossed this goes better... I'll also try to iterate it even more clearly too to help

My child is lovely but we but admittedly rather too open with their emotions. I am wondering if we need to look into this further but that's a whole other post.

My current focus is birthdays. They get so excited and then on the day it feels like nothing can meet their lofty expectations. So that feels why do many presents seem to be a let down. They can get very upset, ask for it all to be sent back, feeling super guilty about it in the process.

The next day, they usually come around and have even come to 'love' the presents in question, sometimes I think that's true, sometimes I do sense it's clearly just an effort to allay the prior meltdown. That said, they take themselves away for the meltdown (just not aware how obvious this is and how we can tell or even hear).

It's always been this way. They are now in their teens. It's so hard to watch and so hideous for them too.

It doesn't seem to be 'birthday stress' as they are so excited in advance. It doesn't seem to be lack of coping with surprises as they ask for surprises and love surprises otherwise. If doesn't seem to be the stress of opening in public as it's just us 5 each time. And it's not a lack of knowing how to act as very very rarely they are delighted and that's also clear. They just have very open emotions.

We spend a lot of effort finding gifts. They are based on tips and interests. We ask for specific ideas but they won't provide them. They desperately want to be surprised. But the surprise is rarely enough.

It just feels like nitpicking out of control and it's so toxic. We debrief after and there are apologies and every year I hope it won't happen again but it does. Christmas too.

With another birthday looming I'm really anxious and would love tips from anyone going through similar or just some basic empathy.

They have given a steer on theme this time at least. We have followed it but I know the Goldilocks effect will kick in again and it'll be 'too this' and 'too that' and it's especially upsetting for their siblings too as we are all on eggshells every time and even worse when it's a sibling's gift to them that's so evicerated.

They aren't at all a diva or materialistic or fussy usually, there's just something about the build up and expectations of presents that gets them every time.

Would love some tips on how to mitigate it - for us and them, without blame or judgment though please. If you think I'm a crap parent just please don't reply. I get enough of that from my own insecurities. Thanks!

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Bobobab · 09/09/2023 05:22

I can't help with much but just wanted to say my mum is like this when receiving gifts and its awful to be on the other side of. She is a perfectionist who likes to be in control at all times which I think drives it but she seems completely unaware of the feelings of others around this too. Like I say probably no help but wanted to say I can relate...

fedupallthisrubbish · 09/09/2023 07:09

What about just cash / Amazon gift card if they are teenagers so they can buy their own items. Then one present wrapped up even if it’s a big bar of chocolate or something that they love so they have a present to open.

balloons / b day cake / banners for the house set up nicely- rest is in their control and they can spend the day searching what they like in the shops / Amazon

pleasebekindnotpreachy · 09/09/2023 08:00

Yeah they don't like the voucher or money route. Not good at finding things for themselves either. And sees that as a really flat attempt. Argh!

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pleasebekindnotpreachy · 09/09/2023 08:10

Also always wants a party or a fun activity and then doesn't want to go on the day or doesn't engage. Each year I hope their enthusiasm prior means it'll be different, they're older now etc. Then it repeats. But I don't want to do nothing as they deserve an effort and I know they don't plan to be difficult. It's not intentional. Like some sort of self sabotage that can't control? Anxiety? Something else? So hard as I don't want to treat them differently to our other kids and single them out either but I'm beginning to have to admit this seems to be a personality trait now or something deeper. But I can't find anything on others finding similar. It's so specific but so repetitive. What to do??

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Alyosha · 09/09/2023 08:20

Do they give you a list to buy from? I loathe surprises and although I'm socially aware enough to look grateful and happy when I get presents I can empathise with the emotions involved. I know you said they want a surprise but IMO what that really means is they really want is for you to read their mind.

pleasebekindnotpreachy · 09/09/2023 08:24

Alyosha · 09/09/2023 08:20

Do they give you a list to buy from? I loathe surprises and although I'm socially aware enough to look grateful and happy when I get presents I can empathise with the emotions involved. I know you said they want a surprise but IMO what that really means is they really want is for you to read their mind.

Yeah I think it's the expectations still way off. Expected to be wowed and feel the magic they did as a toddler. It's not even mind reading and isn't a test as they don't event know what they want. It's a losing battle, I'm asking that they help and we get the present together but they aren't keen. We tried that a couple of years ago. They decided what they wanted, we drove far ti a shop that had it, he changed his mind on seeing it and we drive home empty handed. They were gutted. And then we were back needing a new idea with even less notice and zero steer.

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pleasebekindnotpreachy · 09/09/2023 08:27

It's really not conscious difficult behaviour. It's not intentional, not trying to hurt us or be rude. Feels awful about it. It feels deeper. Could this be part of ADHD, OCD or even ASD? I see traits of all at times but not a full tick box. Least of all is the ASD as they are great on emotion reading and empathy admittedly but something is off and feels like big events are the biggest manifestation. Does anyone find anything here familiar. I feel like I'm maybe missing an inadvertent call for help?!?

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SkaneTos · 09/09/2023 08:44

Sounds like a difficult situation, for your child and for you.

How old is the child?
Can you have a talk about it beforehand? Or would that be too upsetting?
Do they remember that it happens?

pleasebekindnotpreachy · 09/09/2023 19:52

SkaneTos · 09/09/2023 08:44

Sounds like a difficult situation, for your child and for you.

How old is the child?
Can you have a talk about it beforehand? Or would that be too upsetting?
Do they remember that it happens?

Yeah they do remember a little but they aren't super aware of how difficult things were at the time and shake it off with 'but I was difficult / stressed / going through a difficult patch then'. Hence us all thinking / hoping the next time will be different - them especially

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Alyosha · 10/09/2023 14:18

That is really tough, as you say it's the "feeling" of a perfect day they want but don't realise is unattainable. In terms of managing it, could you say no to the party or make it lower key, i.e. have a summer party or spring party instead of a birthday party? so there's a lower expectation of perfection. Or brainstorm with them some mitigations? Hard if they don't remember/accept how it was though.

In terms of this being symptomatic of SEN, I am not qualified to answer but I do have very mild SEN (diagnosed as dyspraxia, but I think could be mild ASD/ADHD) and part of the way this manifests is a complete lack of empathy which has been brought up in every job I've every worked at, my husband and many commenters on this site....take that as youw ill!

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