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Autistic ds being threatened with no break time

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anyideaanyone · 23/11/2022 18:38

He's just gone into year 3 and really really struggles with maths, he just doesn't get it, can't process it at all. He gets so worried and anxious about it.
Anyway, today he was told if he didn't finish his work he wouldn't be going out at playtime. I'm really annoyed about this as he needs help not to be threatened into doing something he doesn't understand. This just made him even more anxious and I think putting pressure on him.
In the end he asked for help and did get it but they should be helping him anyway according to his plan made by the senco.

Would I be in the wrong to question this ? Is it actually okay to keep them in ? It's not like he was refusing he just doesn't get it.
Feel bad for him

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Choconut · 23/11/2022 18:41

It's not dyscalculia is it, ASD, ADHD, dyslexia dyspraxia, dyscalculia etc are all linked and you can often have more than one or some over lap.

I think you need to talk to the school about the pressure they are putting on him and the anxiety it is causing him and that he is struggling - and when they threaten him with missing playtime it just makes him more anxious.

anyideaanyone · 23/11/2022 19:09

It could be, I never thought about that actually. He just can't wrap his head around it, he can do basic stuff but anything more complex and it blows his mind completely.
He told me his head gets busy, he gets obsessive thoughts about things and can't get his mind off whatever it is, so his concentration isn't good at the best of times !

I am going to speak to the senco about it and explain it's upsetting him and making him fret even more. Thing is this happened once in year 2, I said something and the teacher apologised and said it won't happen again and that it was a substitute that day... this was a ta today that said it too

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anyideaanyone · 23/11/2022 21:17

Anyone else know where I stand with saying something?

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Jules912 · 23/11/2022 22:02

They tried this with my DD when she was still on the standard behaviour plan and quickly realised it made her behaviour worse. Now it's not perfect but she has an individual behaviour plan and even gets extra breaks.

SuperSue77 · 23/11/2022 23:02

Has your son been diagnosed with ADHD too? Your comment about his head getting busy, obsessive thoughts and not being able to concentrate sounds classic ADHD to me. My son has both diagnoses, the ASD came first and ADHD a year later, but I feel it’s the ADHD that causes him the most issues at school currently - he is year 6.
last year a teacher tried to keep my son in at break as a punishment and I told the school it wasn’t to happen. I explained that his behaviour will only get worse by being kept in over break, at a time when he needs to run off some energy. That they were disadvantaging him by doing this as he can’t concentrate if he has been kept on and not has the opportunity for movement. His class teacher completely agreed with me and could see it was counter productive (it was another teacher trying to keep him in) and it didn’t happen again, they found alternative consequences for him.
So I think you are absolutely right to question this and the school needs to rethink how they manage your son’s work. Hope it goes well xx

anyideaanyone · 24/11/2022 07:15

They are supposed to be 'working towards' and ehcp but this has been going on since year 1 now and doesn't seem to progress anywhere ! I would've thought they had enough evidence to show he needs the extra support by now...

I have always questioned adhd but not sure if he fits all the criteria... he is extremely lively and loud (sorry if that sounds like a generalisation) but as far as I'm aware as quiet as a mouse in class, he hides himself away so as not to get asked anything I think. But according to Autism outreach he struggles to focus and sits there fidgeting most the time. He is supposed to get sensory breaks and have access to a sensory box/be given jobs to do, but not sure if it's been happening

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Thatsnotmycar · 24/11/2022 10:25

You are right to raise this with the school. Removing DS’s break because he hasn’t completed the work is counter productive.

You can apply for an EHCNA yourself.

Has DS ever had a sensory OT assessment? I would check the sensory breaks are actually happening, and maybe try something like a wobble board.

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