how do you know if just speech delay or more serious

[bubblagirl]

i have had few threads about my ds 2.7 has been assessed by salt who says his understanding levels are behind

he understandas all we ask of him go get this fromm your room ect

but not simple questions also still not trying to start conversation sometimes he does but its just babbling

cannot pronounce certain letters in words mummy is nunny but will say mama daddy is gaggy bob is gog all be words start with g can individually say letters s,f,d,t,m,b,

well im worried as i know its being suggested its more to it

have stories back with dc who now understand questions such as what is your name he cant do what where when why

can copy what your saying

well i guess i'm asking if was more with dsc what other signs rere there and if was just speech delay does my ds sound similar

just need to hear other stories as last few days since first assessment which was inconclusive i have done nothing but worry losing sleep feel tearful all the time

part of me thinks maybe he is autistic or have some form then i have others asaying yeah but my dc didnt do that either and there ok

he doesnt try to talk to anyone at playschool but only been 8-9 times so with sd surely this would be too soon

please just tell me your stories and how your dc are doing maybe itll make me feel more at ease with my ds situation thank you sorry for rambling

glad to hear hes coming along now,just hope my ds does too.xxxxx

my ds didnt start making progress till 2.8 and only just started making real progress 2.10

but we are still far from being out the woods yet but i feel so much more hopeful

SALT requested giving toys one at a time such as if building train track to encourage to say more

so do it yourself few times put one down say more then put another down

and also if he cant do something you want help my ds now says help for everything lol

and give choices and verbalise evrything it really does make difference

they obviously want to learn other things first and now finding speech is needed

good luck if you need to talk i'm here please let me know ds progress and i'll keep updated with my ds

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please keep me updated on your ds progress,i am trying to be positive about my ds and so is dh but it is hard sometimes and we already have a dd with severe disabilities so i think this makes it harder although we do have 3 nt dds.Ill keep looking out for your posts.

you def have your hands full there i thought i had it hard with 1 child

i'm sure your ds will come along my ds was same at that age still not having conversations or normal speech but we are improving

good luck to you i'm here if you want to chat xx

Play can be defined as different stages - solitary play, parallel play (alongside other children but no interaction or conversation), play with companionship (pairs or small groups) and co-operative play (two-way flow of conversation between children). Young children go through the stages, generally in the above order, as they mature but not necessarily at set ages.

At 2.7 your DS is within normal milestones for parallel play and would probably remain at this stage for some time. I wouldn't expect a 2.7 year old child to be initiating conversations, indeed many 3 to 3.5 year olds do not start conversations or interact with other children.

I work with 3-4 year olds and there are vast differences even at that age but I certainly wouldn't be concerned because your DS plays alongside other children and doesn't start a conversation. This is perfectly normal and within the Early Years Foundation Stage guidelines. Most children up to 3 use single words, not all clearly, and then sentences may start gradually consisting of approximately three words, i.e. in my tummy, out in garden, want more etc.

Can you encourage your DS to exercise his mouth, by chewing lumpy food, blowing bubbles etc as this is a good way of helping speech along, as without muscles working in the jaw, speech is often delayed.

Hope this helps.

Just wanted to say that my Ds was very quiet at the same age as your Ds. He went to nusery two days a week and would barely communicate with staff, would only do a thumbs up gesture and when I look back at previous footage I took of him on my camcorder he was very behind with his speech compared to my Ds2. Anyway we had him assessed and they agreed he was behind developmentally.

Now he is nearly 6 and I can't stop him nattering! He is behind with his work at school but generally he gets on fine. I think he needs extra help so I am having an assessment done so he can get this but try not to worry too much.

oh bubbla - thought you might be interested to hear how we got on at joint clinic. The general conclusion was - probably not ASD, just a language problem - that DS difficulties socialising with other kids were probably due to the language problem - but they want to keep an eye on him, and start having SALT go in to his nursery once a week to work with him.

Thanks everyone still waiting for ds assessment to come through but speech coming along he is putting words together although still not said correct but you can understand what he is saying mama coot gall out there i can see what he wants so i say foot ball in the hall way. Tc I.m glad your ds will get help needed lets hope with SALT he will come along quick. Still waiting for ds his 3 this month

So hoping it will be soon have seen big improvement although his at an everythings no stage and whining more instead of speaking but think it's just a stage as still speaks he also says mum to get my attention now instead of just making noises. Oh and says i wug you mama instead of just copying what i'm saying. And his stopped talking at same time as me he normally copies what I.m saying as I.m

I.m saying it. Sorry using phone my comp has packed up can't say all you want in one go. Thanks again to everyone. Tc keep me informed with how ds is getting on I'll let you know with my ds assessments. His hearing tests were fine discharged yesterday. X

for those who have helped me along the way we have assessments on thur am really scared

ds speech has come along but something not quite right still very behind on understanding and speech and pre school still concerned

well i ill let you know thur how we get on and wish us luck x

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My ds was a very late talker, I think at 2 1/2 he was only saying the odd word. It has really bought it home to me since having dd who rattles on and on at not yet 2.

My ds was referred at one pont but no action was taken. When he was 7 he was identified as being dyslexic which can delay speech development, as it involves the verbal areas of the brain.

I think my ds would probably have sat there not saying much as well, or he would have yelled if stuck in something.

He's 14 now, totally normal, midly dyslexic but very very clever. I wonder if it could be something like that? My ds would do pointing and stuff, but proper specch and talking was very late

Oh God, have just read my message nd it sounds as if I am bragging about ds being clever

What I meant was, although he had speech delay it hasn't hampered his general ability or progress in anyway

its ok fizbuzz im happy for anyones children who have gone on and excelled

it gives me hope that my ds will also but even if he doesnt im still happy for others who have there all adorable and loving still

just so nervous i really want answers and help and worry we'll come away none the wiser and still struggling

but i'll have to wait and see it may be more helpful than i think

its just weird how many emotions you go through one moment im so confidant its just speech

then im convinced theres more to it then it all apears ok then it'll be bought to my attention is actions are atypical again just want people to start helping as been waiting so long and feel been in limbo for along time

((bubbla)). It's horrible going for the assessment as although you know you need to to try and get the right help for you lo, it just feels so unfair that you are having to get your kid assessed. With DS' assessment, they took a history from me about his general development, an ed psych did a few non-verbal tests - getting him to copy some patterns with blocks, and point out which picture was the most similar to the one they were showing him, and then they watched how he played with dolls/teaset etc. It only took about an hour, then they (Senior SALT, paed and ed psych) went off for ten minutes to discuss it all.

thanks tc im just so worried i would accept it if there was more to it than just speech

but i just dont want to be left with no help all the time i want him to get all the right help now so he can progress

roll on thur and get it out the way then at least i will be one step nearer to knowing whats going on

how is your ds speech coming along now? x

I think getting a good school that is used to having DCs with similar problems with speech etc to your LO is very very important. You can get a feel for that from ofsted reports and talking to heads/sencos. I am still waiting for the weekly speech therapy that was promised last month to materialise...... I just don't think you can always rely on NHS these days to provide the right help - but if your LO does end up with any ASD diagnosis, there will be help via NAS (they run courses for parents of newly diagnosed kids), and you will find there are lots of parents on here with lots of experience of what works and what you can do with your LO. There is plenty that we can do as parents to try and help with speech etc, obviously having some expert input is best to at least guide us.

at the moment his nursery are awaiting outcome before any action being taken

drives me mad as obvious he needs some one to one but after tomorrow then we should fingers crossed get somewhere with appropiate help

my ds was diagnosed with high functioning autism so not to sure what to think or feel at the moment in the middle of trying to tell family but dont really know what to tell them or what to expect myself

Bubblagirl, I do feel for you as even if you've suspected it, a diagnosis still comes as a shock. For what it's worth, my step daughter is HFA, and at 12 she is now in mainstream school with not even a helper, she has friends, a mobile phone, reads crappy girls mags, loves Dr Who, argues with her older sister and is to all intents and purposes a pretty "normal" pre-teenage girl! I know there is a wide spectrum and every kid is different, but I wanted to show you that HFA can be not the worst outcome. The only things she still falters on a little are she sometimes can't quite carry on a conversation and what she says may not flow from what the other person says, and she struggles sometimes with social niceties (ie pretending to be upset when you're not really) but these are pretty small things and you wouldn't really notice if you weren't with her a lot. She had no particular interventions for her autism, but she did always attend mainstream, though she had an LSA with her right up till 11. Good luck telling the family, they won't know what to say so may come out with some stupid stuff, but everyone needs time for it to sink in. Big hugs!

big hugs to you, i know my DD was also being assessed when you started down this route. i am sorry , this must have been a really big shock. there will be lots of support here.

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