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HELP please: DS (reception, AS) struggling with non-phonetic words

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Hamandcheese · 11/10/2007 20:48

Lovely Popsycal suggested I posted this here (it's also in primary education), as she thought that his Asperger's was probably the route of the problem. Any suggestions welcome.

DS started reception full-time. They use Jolly phonics, which he is familiar with from use at home and preschool over the last two years (including that we used the pictures as part of his speech therapy). He can blend basic phonetic words reasonably well.

He gets sets of 'reading words' home each week, and gets the next set when he's mastered the previous.
First five words all phonetic or nearly (e.g. big). He read them no trouble at all.

Next four not phonetic (me, my, all, the). we've been over them daily. He has 'got' my and all. Reads 'the' as two sylables (th - e) but sort-of gets it in the end. Refuses to accept that 'me' can read anything other than me with short e (as in 'men'). I tell him it says 'mee'. he disagrees. I tell him there's an 'e' missing, that it's 'tricky' etc. But he will not accept it. He got the same words again this week. I don't see how I am going to persuade him that 'me' says 'mee' this week when he wouldn't believe me last week. Any tips?

He has Asperger's Syndrome, and I wonder whether this is an example of his literal / direct nature? I don't want to get stuck on these words all term. Argh - I could cry for him sometimes.

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ChipButty · 11/10/2007 20:55

This sounds like a result of his condition. I'm a teacher but have only had older children with Asperger's in my care, so cannot offer much in the way of advice (sorry!)but your school's SEN coordinator should be able to point you in the right direction - in addition, I expect the SENSS have experienced this before. The only thing I could think of would be to concoct a little rhyme to help him learn it. Hope you come up with a solution.

Elasticbandstand · 11/10/2007 20:59

i would say it'll come, he is very young get, my dd was same/similar, all sorted out by the end of year 1

Hamandcheese · 11/10/2007 22:11

ChipButty - what's 'the SENSS'?

Thanks both of you.

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hana · 11/10/2007 22:17

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mimsum · 13/10/2007 13:21

it might be as a result of his AS but it might be just that he's very young and not ready yet

neither of my boys with AS was reading until well into Y1 - they both now have a reading age well ahead of their chronological age

my dd (who's NT) has just started reception and they're very laid-back - they've not started any formal reading scheme yet - they've only had 2 'letters of the week' and last week dd announced (with some scorn) that the number of the week was 1! (think she was expecting something a little more challenging ...)

It's really important at this age to keep reading fun - and vital for him not to feel he's 'failing' before he's even started

AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/10/2007 09:36

Hamandcheese

You are his best - and only - advocate. No-one else is in a better position to fight his corner for him.

Don't know if anyone has suggested that you apply for a Statement of special needs for your son but it is something I would carefully consider doing asap. He has AS; his school life may become more difficult as the years pass. You need to also think long term.

You can write to your LEA and ask for your son to be statutorily assessed. If they agree to this (and you will have to appeal the decision in the likely event they say no) your son will be given more support in class in terms of hours provided per week.

IPSEA are very good at all this and there are model letters you can use on there to write to the LEA. www.ipsea.org.uk.

Lastly do not let school apply for this legal document - it needs to come from you. You can appeal the decision if the LEA say no, the school cannot.

isgrassgreener · 18/10/2007 10:25

Hamandcheese, my DS was very like this in yr2 with his spellings, he would argue with the teacher and one time when he got 4 spellings wrong in the test, wrote on the bottom, "you are wrong, I am right" he just would not agree that he had spelt them wrong.
I think it was his AS, as at the time he really hated being wrong at anything and would get very upset if you mentioned any mistakes he made.
I can't really say how we got over it, looking back it seemed like one of those phases you move through. I think we did talk to him about how it was ok to make mistakes and that this is how you learn, by making mistakes.
With regards to the phonic thing, you could point out that most letters make more than one sound, as in their phonic sound and their name sound, ie a being "ah" as in cat and "ay" like the name sound as in ape.
Do they teach both of these sounds at school?

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