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Undiagnosed SEN

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Sweet89 · 13/09/2020 14:48

Hi everyone. I am new here and so i hope that this is the right place to post. I'm a mother to a 7 year old boy that is yet to be diagnosed. Adhd has been mentioned and this is without a doubt, however I feel that there is something else, I'm not sure if it's ODD and/or aspergers. I will list some of his behaviours
Difficulties with social relationships because he needs to be in control of everything.
Speaks fluently and is very articulate but takes no notice of others reactions, doesn't notice that the person may be bored and so goes on and on.
Really only likes to engage in a conversation if it is of his interests. Otherwise is not so interested.
Over precise and formal in speech when giving facts and information.
Difficultly playing by the rules and is adamant that he make his own rules. Gets extremely angry and sometimes violent when losing at something.
Mildly Sensitive to loud noises, quiet Sensitive to smells and very sensitive to textures (food)
Very restricted diet because of the texture sensitivity.
Constantly fidgeting and cannot sit still.
Clumsy and uncoordinated.
Very impulsive.
Poor proprioception.
Extremely defiant
Can become extremely angry if asked to clean up toys or any simple task like that.
He is by nature is very happy, loving, and overly friendly little boy. Could anyone offer their thoughts? Does anyone else have a child like this? If so, how do you approach this type of behaviour? Thanks in advance :)

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Selfcarequeereyestyle · 15/09/2020 20:50

You could have described my 7 year old. He has just started year 3 and the SENCO is on it - we have filled in an autism referral questionnaire. I’m not sure it is autism but he definitely has traits and there is something that means life and learning are proving to be tricky for him. I feel reassured and happier just knowing that someone has listened to me and that investigations are beginning. Have you spoken to his school?

Sweet89 · 15/09/2020 21:19

I've also just done some questionnaires, for adhd, pathological demand avoidance, attachment issues and autism, so now he is being observed hopefully for them to put him on a pathway. Its such a lengthy process! This whole process has been going on for a few years now and only now things are starting to progress. Hopefully your wait isn't as long.

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Pobblebonk · 16/09/2020 08:14

Does he have an EHCP? You don't have to wait for a diagnosis to get one.

Sweet89 · 17/09/2020 09:53

Not yet. I did mention it last year to his school and they said that there is no need as they are supporting him well at school, however since returning to school this month, they have mentioned applying for a statement.

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Pobblebonk · 17/09/2020 16:00

You could apply yourself without waiting for the school. www.ipsea.org.uk/asking-for-an-ehc-needs-assessment

Sweet89 · 17/09/2020 17:24

Thank you, I will look into that 😊 he definitely needs a lot more support than he is currently getting. He is only in for 2 hours a day and isnt doing very much work, if any at all.

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Ellie56 · 17/09/2020 20:00

@Sweet89

Why is he only in for 2 hours a day?

Sweet89 · 17/09/2020 20:11

Because although he hasn't had any angry outbursts this term, probably because he's only in for 2 hours, he can be particularly aggressive when triggered, i don't agree with him being in for just 2 hours but I dont know what I can do, he hasn't any diagnosis as of yet and has no statement so we can't get him into a specialist school that he quite clearly needs to be in. The school are awful and seem to be doing what is easiest for them. He's been relatively calm since going back, bit of defiance but no anger.

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Ellie56 · 17/09/2020 20:35

They are not allowed to put him on a part time timetable. That is unlawful exclusion.

Your son is entitled to full time education just like any other child.

www.ipsea.org.uk/pages/category/exclusion-from-school

Sweet89 · 17/09/2020 20:48

If i challenge them over this then could they say he's permanently excluded? They've also used the excuse of him wandering around outside the classroom being a health and safety issue because of the virus situation.

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Ellie56 · 17/09/2020 21:44

They are only allowed to exclude for disciplinary reasons, not because of Covid or because they can't be arsed to meet his needs.

And if they exclude it has to be done officially. The Head must write immediately giving the length and reason for exclusion.See here:
www.ipsea.org.uk/what-steps-does-the-school-have-to-take

www.ipsea.org.uk/if-you-do-not-have-an-ehc-plan

Apply for An EHC Needs assessment, using the IPSEA model letter on the link given by PP above, telling them school are not meeting his needs and are unlawfully excluding him.

Sweet89 · 26/09/2020 17:57

I completely agree with everything that you're saying, they arent doing things correctly but this headteacher is extremely manipulative, she is a bully and I honestly have felt nothing but backed into a corner since he started school. Now they are going to apply for a statutory assessment, after verbally telling me that they weren't applying for it yet, I emailed in requesting they apply now and they've decided they will apply now. Weird.

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