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Here you'll find advice from parents and teachers on special needs education.

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Has anyone used the Dore method to cure dyslexia and is it worth the money

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Bananaknickers · 03/04/2007 17:31

Seems it costs £2000 per child. Have you had success. This would mean getting a bank loan out for us to do it as we are skint. If it works it would be worth it

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NotQuiteCockney · 03/04/2007 19:35

I have no personal knowledge on this one, but Ben Goldacre is not a fan .

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Bananaknickers · 03/04/2007 20:12

My friend who is loaded is just about to do it. She has infact lent me that book and it has already started to make me feel guilty. His daughter had three suiside attempts. Her life has now changed. I feel awful I am only 10 pages in and it has made me cry.
I think it is pulling my heart strings but more than that my purse strings.
Can't help thinking And knowing how much I love my son. If I found a cure I would not fleece other parents. Just knowing I could help would be enough.

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Bananaknickers · 03/04/2007 20:13

pisses me off that I have no money so my son has to suffer.

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ScummyMummy · 03/04/2007 20:15

Sounds like the chances of it being utter bollocks are high. Be careful. Some of these schemes are scams. How old is your boy? Is he getting any extra help at school?

babygrand · 03/04/2007 20:18

I know someone who was very impressed with Dore for her dd. I am considering doing their dyspraxia with my dd, but it seems so expensive.

babygrand · 03/04/2007 20:19

There has been quite a lot of bad press about it recently I think - although, as I say, the only person I know who has experience of it feels it definitely helped.

SenoraPostrophe · 03/04/2007 20:20

£2k!

Have your read NQC's link though? I think it sounds very dodgy.

ScummyMummy · 03/04/2007 20:25

Has he doneReading Recovery yet?

ChocolateGirl · 03/04/2007 21:10

Bananaknickers,

(sorry, I think I've missed part of the thread somewhere): what exactly are your son's problems?

£2000 is an awful lot of money...

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Bananaknickers · 03/04/2007 21:25

He has dyslexia. This says it will cure it

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ChocolateGirl · 03/04/2007 21:35

Can you explain the term dyslexia more fully, please? I know it is an umbrella term for difficulty with reading (and sometimes other things) but it seems to differ from child to child. How old is he? Is it his reading you're worried about?

If it is, perhaps these two websites would help:

link{www.sytheticphonics.com (there is a message board).

Hope links work... I've never got one to work yet and I've been on here two years!!

ChocolateGirl · 03/04/2007 21:35

Aaargh!
this is the other one:

www.dyslexics.org.uk

frances5 · 03/04/2007 21:43

Could you try the website

www.dyslexics.co.uk

What are your son's problems. My son has problems with fine motor control and we used the handwriting sheets

www.promethean.fsnet.co.uk/

His fine motor skills have been delayed because his gross motor skills were slow to develop. My son had orthopedic problems when he was little which made him late walking. Being late with his gross motor skills has made the development of fine motor skills later. However the handwriting sheets on the promethean site have really helped him.

I believe that their dancing with bears scheme is supposed to good for dyslexics. Its certainly a lot cheaper than Dore. Prehaps its worth trying a cheaper option first.

The parents of children with special needs are very vunerable and there are a lot of sharks out there.

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Bananaknickers · 04/04/2007 10:06

he has audio processing problems.He also has a memory problem.

I worry about his self estem as he is always getting labeled as lazy and a dreamer. He crys because he can't get things like others. It affects going to scouts too. He he is 11 and has a reading age of 8 1/2. He can't spell. He is childish for his age and has lots of trouble making friends and getting on with his peers. It is so noticable now. He can't cope with instructions.
On the plus side I have been told he is very bright and will be above average in his SATs in Science. He has a good understanding of general knowledge.

This book has really upset me.I have even been blamed by teachers because I let him behave like this. What parent want to see their child behave like this and see him not having many friends ect.Now I feel bloody guilty for not having the money.

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zippitippitoes · 04/04/2007 10:21

no in my view it is a programme which is generating income and comes complete with a very hard sell...it is marketed by commissioned sales people

if it was a miracle then in my view the above would not be necessary

there are lots of interventions which can help

don't feel guilty...it is possible to have learning difficu;lties dyslexia/dyspraxia and overcome problems with low self esteem and learn to read without dore

isgrassgreener · 04/04/2007 10:48

Hi Banaknickers
I recently went to a meeting of a local dyslexia group where parents talked about all of the different things they had tried, to help their dyslexic children.
The overall result seemed to be that there are lots of things you can try and they all cost quite a lot of money and seem to work for some, not others, there did not seem to be a solution that worked for all.
I think you need to have some faith in whatever you try, to come out of it feeling like it has worked for you. Does that make sense?
Some of the interventions were pretty weird, so I think if you have doubts about the more alternative types of health, then you may end up dissapointed.
With regards to the Dore Programme, someone had done it and felt it had helped. I also have a friend who did it for about a year and felt that it did help her son. You have to be very committed as you have to do exercises every day.
I find it very difficult to decide about these things, especially as it is all so expensive, but I also worry so much about self esteme, that sometimesI think I would do anything to make things better for my DS.
I don't know if the Dore is something I would do or not, but I am interested in it, just not quite ready to make the leap of faith!

NoodleStroodle · 04/04/2007 10:56

I read the book and looked into Dore for both DC.The book is well written and tugs at your heart strings but the thing that gets me about Dore is there is no independent peer review and has been no independent monitoring of its effects.We can't afford £2K on something that might not work. Anyway you can't "cure" dyslexia but you can help DC to live with it and manage it with different strategies.

ChocolateTeapot · 04/04/2007 11:01

I read an interesting article about Dyspraxia in the Times that my Mum had saved for me. There was a lady whose daughter had done it and she felt it had been successful. But it was interesting to see it contrasted with Madeleine Portwood's work which she says she is happy for parents to try and basically will cost the price of a wobble board. Also the stuff that the DORE technique is based on isn't new and nothing that someone determined can't get hold of and have a go.

A friend of mine has a DS with dyspraxia and I think they have tried the DORE method, she was a little unconvinced. I'm not tempted with DD, she gets access to a lot of excercises through school & when she had physio. We could afford to pay for it at a push but I am not convinced by it.

My knowledge of dyslexia is very limited, however I personally think you are better off using your time rather than borrowing money to really push for access to the help that can be available for your child. It's really rubbish that some teachers have made you feel like cr@p. I would be going to school and really pushing that he gets the support he needs. Maybe ring IPSEA (do a google) and have a talk with them, they should be able to advise you what support is available and help you deal with the school to ensure that he gets this.

Please don't feel guilty for not having the money.

babygrand · 04/04/2007 20:04

ChocTeapot - I believe my dd is dyspraxic, although haven't got an 'official' diagnosis. She doesn't get any help at school. Would be really interested to read the article you mentioned and find out more about Madeleine Portwood. Do you know the date of the article?

ChocolateGirl · 04/04/2007 20:05

A reading tutor who uses a Synthetic Phonics method should be able to help him with his reading and spelling. You could ask if there is a tutor near you on any of these sights:

www.syntheticphonics.com
www.rrf.uk.org
www.dyslexics.org.uk.

It would be a lot cheaper than Dore. Also, it might help with the audio processing problems as it concentrates on the sounds in words.

You could also get help and advice on these sites from other parents who have tutored their children themselves and overcome similar problems.

Does he get extra help at school?

fizzbuzz · 04/04/2007 20:13

My son had it.

Biggest waste of f money ever. It made no difference at all. Meant to take 18 months, at end of 14 months no change at all. Then suddenly told because he has dyspraxia (he doesn't) it would take 2 years.

However, am a teacher, and SENCO at my school, knew of 2 students who had improved with it.

I am v cynical TBH

babygrand · 04/04/2007 20:20

Have just found the Madeline Portwood book on Amazon for £21.50. Definitely worth a shot before going down the £2K route!

ChocolateTeapot · 04/04/2007 23:28

Sorry Babygrand for not being back to you before. The Madeleine Portwood book is very good and well worth the money, I need to get mine back from a friend I lent it to. My Mum saved the article for me, it was from the Sunday Times and I think within the last 8 weeks or so, sorry not to be more specific.

cat64 · 05/04/2007 00:26

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ChocolateTeapot · 05/04/2007 18:27

That's interesting Cat64, it must have slipped under my Mum's radar. I gave up with the Sunday papers ages ago as I never got round to reading them and she has been very good at keeping me informed on bits she thinks I should know.

Hopefully this will make Bananaknickers feel better about not borrowing the money

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