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Business idea targeting parents/couples: Please RIP it apart

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LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 13:56

Context: I feel there are too many apps/services to get into a relationship, but I haven't seen anything to keep marriages together.

Target market: Millennial career mothers with young kids (Because this is by far one of the busiest period of our lives, and we end up playing the default parent role usually).

Some common struggles for the target market (assumptions/generalising):

  1. Guilt (Not enough time with kids - we are choosing to be at work and not home - a wicked choice, or the shame for self-care and leaving kids with babysitters/grandparents).
  2. Burnout (Balancing Work-Parenting-Household-Relationship-Others) - Only if there was more time - I'd likely sleep/recharge.
  3. Lack of support/mental load - Dealing with in-laws, planning dates, money problems, or having to constantly tell our partner to pull their weight (not always of course)
  4. Other - Intimacy, lack of control, commitment, or presence in the marriage, etc.

*Apologies if this is harsh/very gender biased - I know not every relationship or partner is like this.

Solution (All-in-one subscription per month):

  1. Easy way to share the house and family admin work (chores, reminders, appointments, bill payments, etc.). I know of existing solutions, but I wanted to implement the card system from the Fair Play book & gamify it.
  2. Bonding/Me-time (concierge to plan and do logistics - you or a couple just turns up). Hyper-personalised date night/revisit your past.
  3. Support (Connection to vetted businesses to solve legal, financial, couple conflicts, career, etc., issues) - There are issues around recognising we need help then selecting a good service on budget is tougher.

Give me every reason why this won't work, why am I wasting my time on this? E.g. the problems are way off, solutions are too weak/generic, etc.

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ANiceCuppaTeaandBiscuit · 16/07/2025 16:08

Fair enough! So would it be a pre-requisite that both in the couple would use the app, or might there be useful features for just one person? I do wonder would that be an issue in and of itself. I can absolutely imagine saying to my husband, did you not check the app, I updated such and such there, and him saying no I didn’t have time, or no I won’t turn on notifications as I don’t need my team hearing it’s my turn to put the bins out. I wonder would it end up being an admin task in itself going into the app. I do think it could be useful, but would really depend on features and it literally being easier than updating the current shared calendar etc.

On the flip side, if you have two user logins per couple that’s doubling your user base from the off which is good for metrics. Though again may mean you need to launch on both platforms.

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:09

inkognitha · 16/07/2025 15:25

I am going to hit you hard with the negative first:

Your idea is not fleshed enough. You don't have a product, just a mix of services and info linked to couples. No USP. No innovation.

You have no client base either. Couples are in distress because they don't communicate well or want the same things. Why would they start communicating and cooperating to buy for your product?

Also, if so many women resent doing the mental workload, rely on them to advocate for your app is only going to add to their list, it is not consistent with what you promise to deliver.

If you don't have solid experience in app creation, IT, or advanced project management, it is going to be very painful and costly. Talking from experience.

But you still have an interesting angle with ongoing support to couples. You have a good niche, but you need a product.

Personally, I would focus on men. What about a AI companion for men about to become fathers with parenting tips/prompts? And marketed via ads/social media targeted at men?

Because for women, there are already all sorts of self-help content with pink covers so to speak. On the bloke side, a lot less.

But it needs to be "bloke to bloke", if you talk to them like a woman or like the NHS guidelines, they're not going to listen as usual.

Firstly, I appreciate the great write up. Thank you!
Please call BS where you see it

Concept:
You are right there are couple of issues:

  1. Disconnect between vision/context to target audience - Essentially, I started with couples but also realised that its about communication and commitmment (as others also pointed out) and felt there is not much value I can add here. Whereas, pivoting to the target audience helped me narrow down the audience, draw out pain points and eventually solutions - Also reasoning was that its a larger market size (because women are generally open and looking for these solutions compared to men)
  2. Not well developed - This is just from my experience that the order of things is customer discovery, validation of problem, build manual solution then test and iterate - Having a product is too far ahead (As per point 1 - the concept is not fleshed out)
  3. USP and Innovation - Needs works no doubt - Even I am not inspired by this. I am still very much focused on problem otherwise nothing that follows matters.

Advocacy:

  1. Fair point and a big assumption - I hadn't thought of this as another to-do/ burden. I'd have to test this with mums - If its positioned correctly, maybe not? e.g, the USP is that now career mums can have it all (balance in work-relationship-parenting-life) without the guilt, burnout or loneliness - it can prompt them to action to achieve a deep-rooted need?

Pivoting to blokes:

  1. Its a great insight - I know more blokes are getting involved (less focus on career over family; research backed).
  2. In either target audience, I wanted to avoid prompting as it feels so reactive and another thing that annoys you via notifications and the time spent on app etc. Would need to solution test though, just my assumption.
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LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:16

Anonymousopinions · 16/07/2025 15:48

I think it'd be important to define what MVP looks like further down the line. This seems to be a "what could the end product look like" and "what problems could it solve" convo, which every great idea needs to start with.

Once the OP has that, they can they see what's MVP, and think about crowdfunding, investment opps etc., plus speak to developers.

And any app can be marketed to an audience, you just need to have a budget or a value swap for it.

Just saw an above point on AI also, and I'd recommend costing integration with too. The more a couple feels seen, the more they'd use it or promote it.

Edited to add, 1-3k is a fairly small budget for app dev. If you're comfortable sharing your background OP, we could look at it from different backgrounds for you? Mine is marketing, with a focus on web dev & tech stacks.

Edited

You are spot on in terms of how i am thinking about the startup journey.

Background: Strategy Consultant with operations and also helped launch a couple of some startups. in short operations, finance, strategy, legal & hr.

Happy to connect on this and brainstorm!

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DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 16:29

So you're going to develop the app so it uses AI to aid hyper-personalisation - why wouldn't I just to go Chat GPT, or whatever?

A lot of apps are going to fall by the wayside now we can just ask the tech to do/suggest stuff ourselves. For free.

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:32

Venalopolos · 16/07/2025 15:49

I don’t have any problems in my marriage other than I want to stay married. Sorry I thought you might be marketing this at even happy couples (like the Paired app) to enhance relationships to make them last as I think if you’re at the point of it not working an app isn’t going to rescue you.

Will/can AI do the booking for you too? I was expecting to say me and DH want to do a date night twice a week, we’re usually free Wednesdays and weekends with sufficient notice, will spend £200 a date and like food, theatre and fitness. And then something drops in both our diaries and we turn up at the time and location of the calendar invite (maybe with a final approval stage before it’s actually booked). Like the Amex concierge service. But that’s mostly delivered by people as far as I’m aware, although I’m sure helped along by AI.

I think I’d expect whoever you were recommending to be paid by you for the ad, which I wouldn’t hate but would give me some scepticism. You’re expecting a lot from peer review that me and my network are paying for this app - there aren’t many subscriptions I have in common with my friends so that might be a tough ask. What is your liability if the legal advice is bad and you recommended the lawyer? We have a lot of internal process at my work when we refer to lawyers to protect our position.

I don’t know, I just feel like housework/dates/legal services are three disjointed factors in a relationship and you’re missing a bit of wraparound - about reconnecting people, physically, intellectually and emotionally.

This is something I am grappling with and I don't think its an easy answer.
Is the app about couples or one particular partner (wife) - Both are intertwined.
My logic is that if you are satisfied, then it will be reflected in the relationship (this is also backed by the largest longitudinal study done on 11k+ couples).
It's a long way of saying - Yes the vision is to have a service that focuses on keeping couples together, but it focuses on the individual.

You have just described the automated dating solution perfectly - Exactly what I had in mind (all personalised, and logistics-free) just show up and save the hassle (time) of planning, booking, etc. I often hear, i miss getting dressed up! AI is developing super fast and it should be able to handle all of this when it comes to scaling (looooong way away).

Agreed on the network, I need to think about it more (or not have it all). In terms of liability you'd be making the selection out of say 1+ options - Its the same with mumsnet or even google no? Is a user/search engine liable for recommending a solicitor here?

I didn't think about the wrap around! I thought about it as separate services and not holistic (the goal is to have an ecosystem of sorts). But I want to make sure it solves a problem (e.g. if enough wives don't have this issue then it doesn't make sense).

Thanks for the write up!

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Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 16:34

I can't even understand what you are actually offering/selling.
Far too much confusing jargon.

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:43

DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 16:29

So you're going to develop the app so it uses AI to aid hyper-personalisation - why wouldn't I just to go Chat GPT, or whatever?

A lot of apps are going to fall by the wayside now we can just ask the tech to do/suggest stuff ourselves. For free.

Couple of issues with ChatGPT

  1. You'd have to develop your own agents to do a lot of this end-to-end (if you are skilled in this, then definitely go for it). Further, you will have to prompt GPT for this - In this app you won't have to. Unless you are using the paid version you will are quite limited.
  2. It uses your data for training its model (security and privacy issues) - You'd have to share data with this app too but it will only be used for you and DH not a global large model. It's not as powerful but way more private and hence personalised.

Free always has a cost - Google, Facebook, Insta,.. they all commercialise from your data to 3rd party. Now with AI this will get even more deeper as the conversations will be far more detailed - All i am saying is, there is a trade-off.

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DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 16:47

Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 16:34

I can't even understand what you are actually offering/selling.
Far too much confusing jargon.

Same. How do I interract with your app? What does it do for me, that having a quick chat with AI doesn't?

(And no, I don't much mind Big Data knowing that my husband and I like curries and the cinema.)

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:48

Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 16:34

I can't even understand what you are actually offering/selling.
Far too much confusing jargon.

Offering working mums with young kids to achieve a balanced (work-family-relationship) life without the guilt, burnout, or loneliness.

How?

  1. Sharing of home and life admin duties
  2. Personalised dates or alone time
  3. Support from experts on areas of conflict

Best elevator pitch i can do for now.

Which bit doesn't resonate with you?

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LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:55

ANiceCuppaTeaandBiscuit · 16/07/2025 16:08

Fair enough! So would it be a pre-requisite that both in the couple would use the app, or might there be useful features for just one person? I do wonder would that be an issue in and of itself. I can absolutely imagine saying to my husband, did you not check the app, I updated such and such there, and him saying no I didn’t have time, or no I won’t turn on notifications as I don’t need my team hearing it’s my turn to put the bins out. I wonder would it end up being an admin task in itself going into the app. I do think it could be useful, but would really depend on features and it literally being easier than updating the current shared calendar etc.

On the flip side, if you have two user logins per couple that’s doubling your user base from the off which is good for metrics. Though again may mean you need to launch on both platforms.

Yes, its basically saying takes two to tango.
I did consider that having notifications at odd times or even turned out can create more issues than solve.

I'd try a few things:

  • Having the ability to control your notifications from the app (low, med, high)
  • Set the time for notifications (particularly blokes) - I'd think you receive them in one batch rather than 1 every hour. Emails are bad enough!
  • Gamification - Set a reward that works (incentivising action)

May I ask, if this is a challenge you are facing now (lack or no response from DH) or just a thought?

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Hoppinggreen · 16/07/2025 17:00

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:48

Offering working mums with young kids to achieve a balanced (work-family-relationship) life without the guilt, burnout, or loneliness.

How?

  1. Sharing of home and life admin duties
  2. Personalised dates or alone time
  3. Support from experts on areas of conflict

Best elevator pitch i can do for now.

Which bit doesn't resonate with you?

Any of it really
Me and DH have conversations about these things and I don't actually experience guilt, loneliness and burnout anyway.
I am still not sure what you are offering that can't easily be achieved really. You are describing what it IS not really what it DOES
(3 startups under my belt and a Small Business Advisor for many years)

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:04

DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 16:47

Same. How do I interract with your app? What does it do for me, that having a quick chat with AI doesn't?

(And no, I don't much mind Big Data knowing that my husband and I like curries and the cinema.)

Sharing your data - That's definitely a positive from a business point of view.

To be fair - I don't know yet, what the app will look like. As per initial post, I am trying to figure out if the problems are real and the solutions make sense.

An example scenario for curry:

ChatGPT

  1. Ask for a curry recommendation
  2. You'd have to do multiple prompts to specify (what you'd like, your area, budget, maybe something from your past, reviews, etc.)
  3. You'd call and order (or do UberEats)
  4. Pay

App

  1. It tells you (via notification) - Thur is curry night/or there is a special at your local's tonight. Do you want to order?
  2. Select and pay (all within the app)
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Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 17:05

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 16:48

Offering working mums with young kids to achieve a balanced (work-family-relationship) life without the guilt, burnout, or loneliness.

How?

  1. Sharing of home and life admin duties
  2. Personalised dates or alone time
  3. Support from experts on areas of conflict

Best elevator pitch i can do for now.

Which bit doesn't resonate with you?

Sorry - I still don't understand why you'd need an app for that.
How does an app make a couple actually share "admin duties"?
Who is telling the app what those duties are?
How does an app give you "alone time"?

Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 17:07

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:04

Sharing your data - That's definitely a positive from a business point of view.

To be fair - I don't know yet, what the app will look like. As per initial post, I am trying to figure out if the problems are real and the solutions make sense.

An example scenario for curry:

ChatGPT

  1. Ask for a curry recommendation
  2. You'd have to do multiple prompts to specify (what you'd like, your area, budget, maybe something from your past, reviews, etc.)
  3. You'd call and order (or do UberEats)
  4. Pay

App

  1. It tells you (via notification) - Thur is curry night/or there is a special at your local's tonight. Do you want to order?
  2. Select and pay (all within the app)

How would the app know where there are special offers. Who is providing the app with that information?

Polkiko · 16/07/2025 17:09

Your scope is way too big, you’re going to incorporate an Uber eats style app within an already big scope app? So all these restaurants will have to sign up to your app and update specials etc

DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 17:10

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:04

Sharing your data - That's definitely a positive from a business point of view.

To be fair - I don't know yet, what the app will look like. As per initial post, I am trying to figure out if the problems are real and the solutions make sense.

An example scenario for curry:

ChatGPT

  1. Ask for a curry recommendation
  2. You'd have to do multiple prompts to specify (what you'd like, your area, budget, maybe something from your past, reviews, etc.)
  3. You'd call and order (or do UberEats)
  4. Pay

App

  1. It tells you (via notification) - Thur is curry night/or there is a special at your local's tonight. Do you want to order?
  2. Select and pay (all within the app)

This is insane. You want to build an app that can do what I use Google Calendar and Facebook for?

And now you want me to pay for my meal via your app? My meal that I haven't eaten yet?

ETA: Oh wait, you are meaning that our exciting date night is - ordering a takeaway from our local curry house? And we need your app to do that?

DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 17:13

As a PP said, how are you going to know what every restaurant is offering in the whole country?

Honestly, this all sounds mad.

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:18

Hoppinggreen · 16/07/2025 17:00

Any of it really
Me and DH have conversations about these things and I don't actually experience guilt, loneliness and burnout anyway.
I am still not sure what you are offering that can't easily be achieved really. You are describing what it IS not really what it DOES
(3 startups under my belt and a Small Business Advisor for many years)

I am glad to have your experienced set of eyes on this. So thanks!

Firstly, if these aren't your problems? I'd love to understand what challenges you face, assuming you are in the target market.

Secondly, everyone sits on different spectrums right, what may come easily for some couples may not for others. If they were easily resolved, then these wouldn't be a problem that come up repeatedly. There is a good chance I am wrong, and the purpose of this post is to understand that.

I am sorry, but can you elaborate on the IS vs DOES.
I thought I was clear on what the service does: It allows you to balance your life.

Happy to read up on any resources you may have.

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SupposesRoses · 16/07/2025 17:34

The card system from Fair Play is the intellectual property of the author. Will they license it, and if so how much for? If not, how will you make your version different enough to not infringe their copyright?
I wouldn't use an app now as we have our things organised well enough and don't need to change. I think there's quite a small window where people want some kind of solution and haven't yet got into a routine.

SupposesRoses · 16/07/2025 17:35

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:04

Sharing your data - That's definitely a positive from a business point of view.

To be fair - I don't know yet, what the app will look like. As per initial post, I am trying to figure out if the problems are real and the solutions make sense.

An example scenario for curry:

ChatGPT

  1. Ask for a curry recommendation
  2. You'd have to do multiple prompts to specify (what you'd like, your area, budget, maybe something from your past, reviews, etc.)
  3. You'd call and order (or do UberEats)
  4. Pay

App

  1. It tells you (via notification) - Thur is curry night/or there is a special at your local's tonight. Do you want to order?
  2. Select and pay (all within the app)

The food delivery app I already have has this covered, it sends out targeted mailshots with offers and it notices when I order and for how many people.

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:40

Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 17:05

Sorry - I still don't understand why you'd need an app for that.
How does an app make a couple actually share "admin duties"?
Who is telling the app what those duties are?
How does an app give you "alone time"?

You don't understand why you'd need an app to reduce burnout, not feel lonely or feel less guilty?
Duties - Most of the tasks are pre-populated (so the couple would have to refine), then allocate (that's how an app shares "admin duties") within a time frame, and only prompts you if incomplete.
Alone-time - By saving you time in the first instance (e.g. from above duties are more evenly shared - so less tasks for you)

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anytipswelcome · 16/07/2025 17:44

The what it IS vs what it DOES is the missing piece, I agree with a PP who articulated this.

When asked to clarify what it does, you said ‘it allows you to balance your life’ which is only the what / why. Whats missing is a clearer idea of the HOW.

Let’s use Amazon as an example. ‘Offering a wide range of products with quick delivery all in one place for an easy and quick shopping experience’ would be the WHAT / WHY. That’s the equivalent bit you’ve answered. But the HOW (the bit I think you haven’t yet answered really) would include lots more detail than that, how they partner with manufacturers and existing brands, how they white label some items to keep costs low and availability high, how they get exclusive prices to attract customers, how they have huge warehouses with stack em high stock on solid sellers, how they send highly targeted emails, how they offer a paid for add on with prime etc etc.

Does that make sense? Hopefully it helps a bit?

Needmorelego · 16/07/2025 17:45

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:40

You don't understand why you'd need an app to reduce burnout, not feel lonely or feel less guilty?
Duties - Most of the tasks are pre-populated (so the couple would have to refine), then allocate (that's how an app shares "admin duties") within a time frame, and only prompts you if incomplete.
Alone-time - By saving you time in the first instance (e.g. from above duties are more evenly shared - so less tasks for you)

Surely you have to spend time telling the app what you need. You'd need to tell the app that a task has been done.
Because otherwise how would it know this information?
So it's an extra bit of admin?
Sorry but I really don't see the point in your app and it definitely wouldn't be something I would pay a subscription for.
Sorry 🙁

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:46

SupposesRoses · 16/07/2025 17:34

The card system from Fair Play is the intellectual property of the author. Will they license it, and if so how much for? If not, how will you make your version different enough to not infringe their copyright?
I wouldn't use an app now as we have our things organised well enough and don't need to change. I think there's quite a small window where people want some kind of solution and haven't yet got into a routine.

I will not be using any copyrighted or anyone else's IP, its illegal - it was more of a reference to showcase the concept. I have a variation in mind with gamification in mind to make it fun, as to the extent possible with admin tasks.

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DiamondThrone · 16/07/2025 17:50

LemonKangroo · 16/07/2025 17:46

I will not be using any copyrighted or anyone else's IP, its illegal - it was more of a reference to showcase the concept. I have a variation in mind with gamification in mind to make it fun, as to the extent possible with admin tasks.

So it's a sticker chart for grownups?

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