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Have I gone wrong somewhere?

74 replies

Livinginacatdictatorship · 18/12/2024 17:31

I started slimming world and my first weigh in I lost 6lbs, which I assume was mostly water retention. The next week I maintained. I've just weighed myself and it looks like I've put on 1.5lbs.... but I have 100% been sticking to my syns etc. I've put everything in the planner on the app.
I'm just confused and a bit disheartened about it, any ideas anyone?

OP posts:
pambeesleyhalpert · 23/12/2024 16:19

@Livinginacatdictatorship my scales at home are 4lb heavier than the ones at SW so don't worry too much!

I love SW. the only time I've put weight back on is when I've been pregnant and ive lost it all
again following SW

fanaticalfairy · 23/12/2024 18:16

Jabbabong · 23/12/2024 11:46

Erm no.

Slimming world allows unlimited potatoes, rice and pasta. This is appalling nutritional advice for anybody let alone those trying to lose weight.

Edited

It's unlimited in the sense, it's not limited to a certain portion eg 50g a day. BUT at no point does it say you can eat only pasta in your meal and 5 kg of potatoes.

Queenofthejabs · 23/12/2024 18:50

fanaticalfairy · 23/12/2024 18:16

It's unlimited in the sense, it's not limited to a certain portion eg 50g a day. BUT at no point does it say you can eat only pasta in your meal and 5 kg of potatoes.

No one said it said eat only pasta and potatoes.. We said it said you can eat tnem in unlimited quantities, and it does.

and that’s appalling at the best of times, even worse when talking to folks who are over weight and likely have portion control issues.

Have I gone wrong somewhere?
suki1964 · 24/12/2024 00:17

Think you are perhaps looking at old literature ?

No where in the literature I have does it say fill your boots on potatoes rice and pasta. And as a member I believe I have access to the most up to date

Have I gone wrong somewhere?
Queenofthejabs · 24/12/2024 07:28

suki1964 · 24/12/2024 00:17

Think you are perhaps looking at old literature ?

No where in the literature I have does it say fill your boots on potatoes rice and pasta. And as a member I believe I have access to the most up to date

I don’t understand your point, your image shows the exact same wording as my image,

but to help here, what both say, your image nd mine, is all these free foods are free to enjoy, have ABSOLTELY NO LIMITS, NO WEIGHING CALULCATING etc

can you clarify for me please, how this says to you it should be limited to certain portion sizes and eaten in very small quantities, within a calorie controlled diet,ensuring the right balance of macros.

i think maybe we’d all like to understand better? As for me, clearly a simple person, it says I can eat with absolutely no limits.

suki1964 · 24/12/2024 08:33

But then you click on the image and then beside all the foods under those groups are wee symbols P - protein, F- fibre - S - speed

further along through the books you get to study, they are very clear that you will get best results if you stick to the foods that are speed and protein

The not counting or weighing is rather like the signs on the door of a sale - UP TO 75% off - most is only reduced by 10%

The no limits, that great, its like I say, someone who is obese ( like I was ) with huge portion sizes ( that was me ) , is going to fall off plan the minute they start feeling hungry, you know that which is why you are using WLI, you cant handle the hunger. So they say to you, dont go hungry, eat, eat the pasta and the potatoes till you are full and leave the ruddy donuts alone. So you do, and you lose weight. Not because you are eating unlimited pasta and spuds, its because you have left the donuts alone. Eventually that stops working, you plateaux - everyone does so you speak up in group and what you usually eat in a day looked at and its suggested that you are not having enough speed, that your diet is now too carb heavy. So thats usually when people start cutting the pasta and spuds and picking more foods from the speed ( veg ) and protein. And guess what? They realise they arent dying of hunger pains . Getting that far having lost perhaps 10% body weight, feeling better in themselves, being able to move more, they can handle a few hunger pains in between meals because they see the results each week on the scales and from how their clothes fit

Slowly, and for me it was very slow, portion sizes reduce to normal and those portions are full of the stuff you need to be eating - veg and proteins with enough fibre and dairy for good health

it is not rocket science, its not a diet, its a plan for life and some of us ( me included ) take a while to learn it and realise - this is it. This is how I. have to eat forever to maintain a healthy BMI

I was that person who's meals were mostly carbs. Id have four slices of toast thick with butter in the morning, mid morning the drivers would come in with hot sausage rolls, lunch would be cheese on toast and a chocolate bar, afternoons the crisps would come out in work, came home, cooked a meal, picked around it cos I was a serial veg dodger, then come ten o clock Im back raiding the biscuits or the bread bin. I knew it wasnt healthy, I knew it was making me fat, but I had no will power to resist. I craved bread and pastry. If there was a fresh white fluffy loaf, Id be sat here visualising it, planing on what I was going to have on the next slice, when was I going to get the next slice. If we ate out, I was picking the dish that had chips or the pasta and garlic bread. Hell Id even order chips with a Sunday roast as I wasnt going to eat the veg. Oh believe me when I say I know about food noise, about cravings and binging, but with the help of SW I've turned the tide. I dont crave pastry or bread anymore, indeed now if I do eat them I get an upset tummy and bowels. I cant eat much in the way of a takeaway as the salt and sugar kills me. I now prefer homemade food - veggies included and I am never hungry. Well obviously I get the odd hunger pain as we all do when we are running late on meal times, but I can live with them, I know I dont need to eat until my meal is ready

Im not consumed thinking about food in unhealthy ways. I do have to meal plan, I need to know ahead what plans I have for the week and work around those. Im not saying no to dinners out or birthday parties, or a slice of homemade cake some one brings in to work. But Im aware and I choose wisely around those events

SW is not a diet, They are giving you the tools and support to move from disorganised unhealthy eating to normal healthy eating and they are there every day , 24/7 to keep you at it . We laugh in group that its really AA, and its is very similar . The tools and support, but there is only one person who can do it

Now we can argue on and on for pages and tbh you are never going to change your stance and Im not going to change mine so lets call it quits and go enjoy Christmas. Im spending the day cleaning the house, wrapping the last of the pressies, may even find time to decorate the tree ( ill health in the household has meant thats taken a back seat ) and tonight Im looking forward to mince pies and a glass of baileys cuddled up on the sofa with DH and the dog after my sweet and sour chicken and egg fried rice ( of which there will be a rainbow of veg throughout )

Merry Christmas

Queenofthejabs · 24/12/2024 09:26

suki1964 · 24/12/2024 08:33

But then you click on the image and then beside all the foods under those groups are wee symbols P - protein, F- fibre - S - speed

further along through the books you get to study, they are very clear that you will get best results if you stick to the foods that are speed and protein

The not counting or weighing is rather like the signs on the door of a sale - UP TO 75% off - most is only reduced by 10%

The no limits, that great, its like I say, someone who is obese ( like I was ) with huge portion sizes ( that was me ) , is going to fall off plan the minute they start feeling hungry, you know that which is why you are using WLI, you cant handle the hunger. So they say to you, dont go hungry, eat, eat the pasta and the potatoes till you are full and leave the ruddy donuts alone. So you do, and you lose weight. Not because you are eating unlimited pasta and spuds, its because you have left the donuts alone. Eventually that stops working, you plateaux - everyone does so you speak up in group and what you usually eat in a day looked at and its suggested that you are not having enough speed, that your diet is now too carb heavy. So thats usually when people start cutting the pasta and spuds and picking more foods from the speed ( veg ) and protein. And guess what? They realise they arent dying of hunger pains . Getting that far having lost perhaps 10% body weight, feeling better in themselves, being able to move more, they can handle a few hunger pains in between meals because they see the results each week on the scales and from how their clothes fit

Slowly, and for me it was very slow, portion sizes reduce to normal and those portions are full of the stuff you need to be eating - veg and proteins with enough fibre and dairy for good health

it is not rocket science, its not a diet, its a plan for life and some of us ( me included ) take a while to learn it and realise - this is it. This is how I. have to eat forever to maintain a healthy BMI

I was that person who's meals were mostly carbs. Id have four slices of toast thick with butter in the morning, mid morning the drivers would come in with hot sausage rolls, lunch would be cheese on toast and a chocolate bar, afternoons the crisps would come out in work, came home, cooked a meal, picked around it cos I was a serial veg dodger, then come ten o clock Im back raiding the biscuits or the bread bin. I knew it wasnt healthy, I knew it was making me fat, but I had no will power to resist. I craved bread and pastry. If there was a fresh white fluffy loaf, Id be sat here visualising it, planing on what I was going to have on the next slice, when was I going to get the next slice. If we ate out, I was picking the dish that had chips or the pasta and garlic bread. Hell Id even order chips with a Sunday roast as I wasnt going to eat the veg. Oh believe me when I say I know about food noise, about cravings and binging, but with the help of SW I've turned the tide. I dont crave pastry or bread anymore, indeed now if I do eat them I get an upset tummy and bowels. I cant eat much in the way of a takeaway as the salt and sugar kills me. I now prefer homemade food - veggies included and I am never hungry. Well obviously I get the odd hunger pain as we all do when we are running late on meal times, but I can live with them, I know I dont need to eat until my meal is ready

Im not consumed thinking about food in unhealthy ways. I do have to meal plan, I need to know ahead what plans I have for the week and work around those. Im not saying no to dinners out or birthday parties, or a slice of homemade cake some one brings in to work. But Im aware and I choose wisely around those events

SW is not a diet, They are giving you the tools and support to move from disorganised unhealthy eating to normal healthy eating and they are there every day , 24/7 to keep you at it . We laugh in group that its really AA, and its is very similar . The tools and support, but there is only one person who can do it

Now we can argue on and on for pages and tbh you are never going to change your stance and Im not going to change mine so lets call it quits and go enjoy Christmas. Im spending the day cleaning the house, wrapping the last of the pressies, may even find time to decorate the tree ( ill health in the household has meant thats taken a back seat ) and tonight Im looking forward to mince pies and a glass of baileys cuddled up on the sofa with DH and the dog after my sweet and sour chicken and egg fried rice ( of which there will be a rainbow of veg throughout )

Merry Christmas

That’s a very long post, basically saying yes, my image says the exact same as yours, so wasn’t outdated, it is limitless and the fact it states what food group it is ie protein, I can’t quite see again how that changes the fact they tell you it’s unlimited.

now if there is bizzarely a book, and somewhere in that book it tells you if you eat speed and protein you lose more weight, (and who studies a book) it still doesn’t tell you not to eat rice and pasta in unlimited quantities.

it feels like you’re trying very hard to say sliming world doesn’t tell overweight people with likely portion control issues, they can hoover down as much pasta and potatoes as they wish.

but they do. And it is , 100 percent a shockingly bad diet, full of terrible advice.

and back to where we started , that’s why 97 percent of people ultimately fail on it.

suki1964 · 24/12/2024 09:50

Mark Twain was surely right

MostHighlyFlavoredGravy · 24/12/2024 09:54

suki1964 · 24/12/2024 09:50

Mark Twain was surely right

No point arguing with Jabby McJabface, she clearly has an axe to grind!

Queenofthejabs · 24/12/2024 09:55

MostHighlyFlavoredGravy · 24/12/2024 09:54

No point arguing with Jabby McJabface, she clearly has an axe to grind!

Ah I love a reasoned argument,😂

when you resort to insults, you’ve lost the fight.

MostHighlyFlavoredGravy · 24/12/2024 09:56

Queenofthejabs · 24/12/2024 09:55

Ah I love a reasoned argument,😂

when you resort to insults, you’ve lost the fight.

I literally said upthread that I basically agreed with you and your response was, "no you don't" 😂

Queenofthejabs · 24/12/2024 09:58

MostHighlyFlavoredGravy · 24/12/2024 09:56

I literally said upthread that I basically agreed with you and your response was, "no you don't" 😂

Edited

I said we weren’t full in agreement. As there was a nuance.

however not sure that’s warranted hurling abuse. But you do you.

Jabbabong · 24/12/2024 21:22

suki1964 · 23/12/2024 15:15

No they dont, they advise you put enough on your plate so you are filled

When half your plate is veg, a quarter protein, how much do you honestly think you are going to eat?

And since when does any balanced healthy diet stop you from eating those foods ?

I eat rice pasta and potatoes , the only thing I have given up because it does nothing for me and leaves me bloated now, is bread. Tonights dinner is Beef in red wine, boiled potatoes , broccoli, carrots, turnips.

Tomorrows dinner is going to be sweet and sour chicken and egg fried rice

Last nights was roast chicken, roast potatoes , roast parsnips, carrots, peas, stuffing

And Christmas dinner will be Turkey, ham, pigs in blankets, stuffing, braised red cabbage, carrot and parsnip mash, peas and sprouts. With all that on a plate, all those veggies, how many flipping potatoes do you honestly think a person can eat ?

Apart from the Christmas dinner, the others are representative of what I eat daily and I still lost what I needed to and I maintain.

But some posters are determined that SW doesn't work,

"When half your plate is veg, a quarter protein, how much do you honestly think you are going to eat?"

Myself and most nutritionally aware people not much. But the question you should be asking is "how much is an overweight person going to eat?" Answer being probably more than they should be. Which is why they are overweight in the first place.

Telling somebody that is already overeating that they can, should they choose, have unlimited potatoes, bread or pasta is a (pardon the pun) recipe for failure.

The cause cannot also be the solution.

DietHelp · 29/01/2025 21:42

NRTFT so apologies if I’m repeating.

People keep going on about the free foods leading to overeating but I was told you eat free foods when you’re hungry, not just because you fancy it. Not to mention you’re supposed to have a third of speed food.

I honestly think this sort of thing is about what you can get on with and stick to. For me, SW takes the hard work out of it all. Most of my meals are home cooked with ‘free’ foods..chillies, stroganoff, fresh, homemade burgers, salmon, smoked salmon, roast dinners using spray oil (NOT fry light) for the roasties and parsnips, pasta dishes - though I don’t have pasta too often as it bloats me, omelettes, jackets. And I add lots of salad and veggies with these.

I’m not a massive fan of fat free stuff as I believe we need some fat in our diets, so for breakfast I have some full fat greek yogurt mixed with fat free greek yogurt (counted) and some fruit. I also use my syns for a small amount of butter occasionally too.

I hated calorie counting as I always felt restricted.

No matter what diet you do though, they’re all basically the same at the end of the day, it’s just the formula used to get the weight loss that varies and that’s the bit you have to find out for yourself what works for you I suppose.

Queenofthejabs · 29/01/2025 22:18

People keep going on about the free foods leading to overeating but I was told you eat free foods when you’re hungry, not just because you fancy it. Not to mention you’re supposed to have a third of speed food

you’re very lucky you only eat when you’re hungry and stop when you’re full.

DietHelp · 29/01/2025 22:51

Queenofthejabs · 29/01/2025 22:18

People keep going on about the free foods leading to overeating but I was told you eat free foods when you’re hungry, not just because you fancy it. Not to mention you’re supposed to have a third of speed food

you’re very lucky you only eat when you’re hungry and stop when you’re full.

Not really. It took a lot of hard work to recover from bingeing.

Queenofthejabs · 30/01/2025 07:27

DietHelp · 29/01/2025 22:51

Not really. It took a lot of hard work to recover from bingeing.

Sorry I’m confused, you sniffly defended slimming world, said the free foods were only supposed to be eaten when “hungry” like we were all fools, when surely you know it isn’t that simple for most people with a weight problem and telling them they can eat as much as they wish, with no limits is very dangerous advice which will have them doing exactly that, as you yourself also struggled tp only eat when “hungry”

AccordionedWhileMallBurned · 30/01/2025 07:36

The 'Free Food - eat as much as you like without measuring' is the headline; the stuff about the need to fill half your plate with vegetables etc. is the small-print. As with anything in life, there is always a catch!

Queenofthejabs · 30/01/2025 07:54

AccordionedWhileMallBurned · 30/01/2025 07:36

The 'Free Food - eat as much as you like without measuring' is the headline; the stuff about the need to fill half your plate with vegetables etc. is the small-print. As with anything in life, there is always a catch!

Well they hid the small print very well.

Have I gone wrong somewhere?
AccordionedWhileMallBurned · 30/01/2025 08:02

Queenofthejabs · 30/01/2025 07:54

Well they hid the small print very well.

It'll be there somewhere, hidden behind multiple clicks. It always is.

Queenofthejabs · 30/01/2025 08:31

AccordionedWhileMallBurned · 30/01/2025 08:02

It'll be there somewhere, hidden behind multiple clicks. It always is.

Honestly you’re arguing the indefensible. I get being a fan of the diet, but this is extreme.

DietHelp · 30/01/2025 08:35

Queenofthejabs · 30/01/2025 07:27

Sorry I’m confused, you sniffly defended slimming world, said the free foods were only supposed to be eaten when “hungry” like we were all fools, when surely you know it isn’t that simple for most people with a weight problem and telling them they can eat as much as they wish, with no limits is very dangerous advice which will have them doing exactly that, as you yourself also struggled tp only eat when “hungry”

I didn’t say anything ‘sniffly’ - I merely wrote what I have been told. And I know it’s not easy - again, I never said it was. You’re reading far too much into my words.

The point of the ‘free foods’, I believe, is that they’re generally filling and satiating, therefore people will naturally eat to appetite. There will always be exceptions of course. The restriction of calorie counting can also lead to bingeing, which is why I made the point in my post that it’s all about finding what works for you as an individual.

AccordionedWhileMallBurned · 30/01/2025 11:59

Queenofthejabs · 30/01/2025 08:31

Honestly you’re arguing the indefensible. I get being a fan of the diet, but this is extreme.

Eh? Why do you think my general deploring of hidden small print is defensive? Quite the opposite, I think there should be rules that stop this practice across all forms of marketing and advertising.

suki1964 · 31/01/2025 22:47

You know, I do wonder why - A - the self proclaimed "queenofthejabs" is on this thread and B - why anyone is even engaging with her any more?

She KNOWS she's right, She KNOWS that any organisation out there that helps people lose weight - and keep it off ( two years so far ) just doesn't exist

Leave her be

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