Seriously, how can a 10 week old NOT sleep at all?

[ohsurelynot]

Rhetorical question really as have 10 week old baby who just will not sleep. Now, I could sort of cope when she wouldn't sleep during the day, but the lack of sleep at night is killing me. She woke up at 7 am this morning and at 10pm is still wide awake despite not having slept during the day.

Have tried everything to get her to sleep even the Dr Karp method (which used to work but has now stopped) but she adamantly stays awake. She yawns a lot but is wide awake, have tried taking her out for long walks in the pram, rocking her, taking her out for long car drives etc Nothing works!

I'm just amazed that a baby can stay awake this long especially as I keep reading that she should be sleeping for up to 16 hours a day...

oh i'm glad you've tried Dr Karp... that book ws fab when ds2 was little lol

i'm afraid i have no answers, but i hope that she has a nice long sleep for you tonight to make up for it!

Thanked Dr Karp on a daily basis for his technique, he was responsible for the little sleep dd managed. But now his method has stopped working, have no idea why. Maybe I should try and contact the guru himself for answers

The standards of how much sleep babies "should" have are actually not very representative. Studies have shown infants needing anything between 10 and 22 hours sleep in 24.

If your DD is grumpy and miserable when she's awake then yes, she's almost certainly knackered, I'd say!

If, on the other hand, she's reasonably cheerful, then she may be one of those babies who can make do on less sleep.

Which is tough on you!! But try not to beat yourself up about her lack of sleep, sounds like you're doing everything you can to encourage her to get more Zs. You don't need guilt as well as sleep deprivation.

Chances are, things will start to settle down soon.

And if Dr Karp gives you any more tips, please share!!!

My dd didn't sleep. She just didn't need it. The hv- probably trying to get me through- said it's a sign of classical intelligence. It didn't really help tbh.

She's 3 now and gets up at around 8am. She can finally be persuaded into bed at around 11pm. If she naps during the day (falling asleep on a long journey for 20 minutes for example), she'll still be going at gone midnight.

She's v happy though. Always was.

According to my mum, I didn't sleep at all until I started primary school. In the end, she and my dad just used to put me in my cot and as long as I was safe, they went to sleep. They were too exhausted to do anything but.

yes helenwombat I think my dd is similiar to your ds, unable to fall asleep at the drop of a hat in the car or pram. I've walked for miles when dd is frantically yawning and crying hoping it will help but she remains wide awake. She seems to find the interior of her pram stimulating for some reason even though it's just red fabric!

My first baby however used to fall asleep anywhere and anytime. I remember I'd be changing her and she'd fall asleep mid-change on her changing mat. One minute I'd be cooing to her in her pram and the next she'd be in a deep sleep. Didn't realise how lucky I was with regard to sleep first time round!