10 month old's become a clockwork 5:40 waking monster help!

[Scotlian]

Oh how I used to look at early waking thread titles and think "hah, my wee boy won't do that!"... so now I pay for my smugness AND for never reading the threads as have no idea what to do. Ds is 10 1/2 months, eats like a heffalump, no colds or jabs, and has for the past week woken at 5:40 on the dot. Ready to start the day, but also still tired and grumpy. He's normally really cheery and still has 2 naps (1 or 1 1/2 hours each) in the day. We have tried earlier/later bedtime (he's normally asleep by 7:30/8 pm), going in to soothe him with cuddles, sleepytime music star, offering water, telling him it's night time.. none of it has worked. Am about to consider cc for early waking, if there is such a thing - basically ignoring any noise until 6:30.

Not sure if: he's having too many naps? Teething (but he's already got 6 teeth and this never happened before)? 5:40 is "normal" for this age and we should be resigned?

Things are complicated by the fact that I'm 5 wks preg and SO TIRED all the time. Any and all advice really appreciated.

hey! got my MIL here for the weekend to help out a little with the boys, as dh is in hospital.

Things aren't that great really. Havent really had the chance to try out wake to sleep in other variations, as ds2 has been waking up loads and just wants to come into bed with me or else he'll scream the place down. So I think I will have to do some proper sleep training with him again first so get him to spend the entire night in his own bed again. What do you think?

Dh is back home on Monday but will be out of action for a while (he had an operation on his back for a slipped disc, is not allowed to lift etc), but I do hope he'll be able to help out with this sleep problem.

So, your ds is still sleeping well, scotlian? I was so very hopeful that I would have my ds sorted soon, but he's been the bigest drama queen around from the moment he was born so I think it might take a little while

Timsmama how old is your DS2? (and your DS1??) I think that it is probably a good idea to put the 'wake to sleep' thing on hold whilst there is so much going on - tbh I think it is probably best to leave it until things are much more settled.

Scotlian how's things with you?

ds1 is nearly 3, ds2 is 14 months.

Usually ds1 is a fantastic sleeper (goes to bed between 7.30 and 8am and I usually have to get him up at 7.30am. and most of the time he still naps in the afternoon to. At the moment though he wakes up once during the night and has a tantrum-like crying fit. I guess it must be dream-related - when I come into his room he says things like "I want my ice cream" or "CAKE"...so it sounds like he has been dreaming that he wants something and then he is told he cant have it and throws a tantrum...in his sleep! It takes ages to calm him down. I really hope they both calm down again once dh is home from hospital.

Anyway, I hope everyone else is having peaceful nights have a lovely sunday!

Hi timsmama! Does your DS2 have his molars yet? That caused about 6 weeks (yes, weeks) of 5 am starts for us (plus crazy night wakings, some very long). No amount of routine tweaking would help. Could it be that? If yes, the only that helped us was Nurofen and time!

Hi Timsmama!

Sounds like there's an awful lot going on with you at the mooment, I think you're wise to do some basic (?) sleep training stuff and getting things more settled before wake to sleep can work. Sounds like some kind of computer game with weird levels. You can only progress to WTS level after Basic Speep Training has been completed.

Good luck with it all!

Here nights are relatively peaceful, touch wood touch wood. Going on holiday for a few weeks in 2 days though so hoping that won't mess everything up again...

Yes, a lot going on here, but dh is back home now. Not really much help but the boys love having him here, of course.

I did do basic sleep training with ds2 when my mil was here - she couldnt believe just how loud he can scream but really I got it sorted quicker than expected. he even slept till 6am the next morning.

Let's see how things pregress from here.

Scotlian, I hope you have a lovely holiday and your ds will continue to sleep nicely for you

Can I just offer some sympathy? I was going to post to ask if anyone else has found their babies sleep had gone haywire at about 10mo.

3 weeks ago DD got a gastro and everything has been a mess since. She now regularly wakes up between 4:15 and 5:00 and will cry for upward of an hour before i give in and pick her up/ rock her/ feed her/ bring her to bed/ anything to make her calm down. Two nights ago i crawled into her cot !!

In the past if i spent a night or two just sitting by her side but not really responding to her, she'd stop the waking but it doesn't seem to be working this time and the poor little mite is so tired and her routine is shot.

I might try WTS too. Desperate really. I'll also try limiting the day naps but she's so tired/grumpy if she only gets 30mins in the morning. I want my happy baby back!

hi all,ive been following this thread and have taken the advice and tried wake to sleep, two nights ago i started and so far so good ,
DS has been early waking for months but it has been getting earlier some mornings between 4 and 4.30 , it is killing me, im sooooooo tired,
Anyway put him to bed for 7 on tuesday and stirred him about 3 which i think was a bit too early cos he woke at 5.30 but last night i stirred him at 4 and he slept while SEVEN, wow, dont know if it was a one off but gonna do it again and hopefully its worked.
thanks everyone for advice, i might finally start feeling human again