DS2 (5 1/2) won't go to sleep at night!

[basementbear]

DS1 and DS2 share a room, which has worked fine so far (they are 7 and 5 1/2). DS2 seems to need less sleep though, and although they have always had a bit of a chat before falling asleep, lately DS2 is keeping DS1 awake with his constant chatting, and then starts shouting because DS1 doesn't want to talk anymore.

We only have 2 bedrooms so they have to share and I really don't know how to solve this! They normally go to bed around 8pm. Last night, DS1 was crying because he was so fed up, so we put him in our bed for a bit. DS2 stayed in the boys' bedroom and continued shouting until about 9pm, so I went and sat with him (but tried not to talk to him). He fell asleep after about 1/2 hour and we managed to get DS1 back into bed without waking DS2, but I don't want to get into the habit of doing this every night!

Before that, we had been taking DS2 out of the bedroom when he was shouting, but I realised that was just what he wanted! Friday night he ended up on the sofa with me until about 10pm - again, not something I want to get into the habit of!

Sorry this is a bit long - does anyone have any brilliant ideas for getting DS2 to stay in bed and not shout?

No-one?

Oh dear, looks like I'm on my own then! We are going to try star charts but they haven't worked well in the past for other misdemeanours ...

Could he listen to a story with earphones, which would mean DS1 could go to sleep and DS2 would have something to listen to for a short while?

The other option is to put DS1 to bed at say 1945 and then DS2 at 2015 once DS1 is asleep and he can't talk to him.

Thanks Sidge. I had thought about putting DS2 to sleep later but I think he would just get into bed later and then shout at DS1 till he wakes up!! Plus DS1 would be a bit mad at going to bed earlier than his brother. Maybe I could threaten DS2 with putting him to bed first??

The story / music is a good idea. Actually if they were both listening to it, DS1 might fall asleep anyway